Boxing Drek for AV Wins

[shaeman]

with that level of coordination you'd be able to walk in to the enemy base cap the towers and graveyard and hold them, then kill him that bit easier.

[Altsoba]

with that level of coordination you'd be able to walk in to the enemy base cap the towers and graveyard and hold them, then kill him that bit easier.

Capping towers/gy, specially at their base immediately draws their attention up north and that would imo compromise the whole plan of rushing/ win fast.

Back in the old days of single boxing and old school av I used to lead 40m premades and we were I'd say 95% coordinated . It should be easier with just 4-5 people, even with only 2 5 boxers.

[Marathon]

So I've been playing a good deal of AV lately on my druid and I am getting tired of losing because we just can't hold towers and keep it together for Drek. So I was asking myself, what would it take to solo box Drek with all towers up?

I'm thinking I'd have to go all druid since stealth will be needed to get there and melee dps will just make things messy. So what does everyone else think? Is this possible?

- Souca -

I Meet Souca in AV

[Catamer]

the horde has done this several times on my battleground ( I'm alliance )
I've been told they do it with 5 tanks, one on each boss. They skip everything and just do the last boss. takes less that 5 min for the whole BG.

[Fizzler]

I really don't remember how hard he strikes and how many hp he has but the setup suggested is pretty much what I used even when I 10 boxed a few Naxx bosses (2 tanks, two healers and rest dps), knowing that this guy has really no specific abilities, no need for micro management, etc... With quite a good dps he can go down fast. Anyone knows how many hp fully buffed he has?

EDIT: If Wowwiki is accurate he has 1,069,000 unbuffed and 144% more fully buffed - 2608360... tbh it's nothing...

Possible problems while fully buffed:
Melees at 34160
If he stormbolts random toons he hits at 24400

Maybe a third healer is better, just in case, I think the dps cannot "afford" to support heal.

Anyhow, if something like this worked it'd be pretty much huge honor farming and it's take something like 2 5 boxers and a couple more friends/guildies.

Btw, anyone knows how much honor for just killing him and not capturing anything else?

If he hits for 34160 on a melee strike he would 2 shot most folks. Can you heal that fast? He stormbolts often enough what is the HP of your healers? Is it greater than 24400? If not they are one shotted.

As far as great honor farming I would not agree. Back when it was possible to kill the General with all the Marshal's up it took about 4 minutes.

General - 389 honor
Captain - 135 honor
Winning - 248 honor

Total - 772 honor

Of course there will be PvP kills, Flight Masters released but nothing more significant than what is listed above.
There is a good chance that all towers will be in conflict and that both Captains have been killed.

Could you reliably rush the General and kill him every time. If you fail than it result in a turtle. It is far better to organize the offense cap at least the last 2 towers and than take down the General.

If you can organize a group well enough you can finish up in 10 minutes and gain a fair amount of honor. The tough part of course is organizing the group

[Lyonheart]

the horde has done this several times on my battleground ( I'm alliance )
I've been told they do it with 5 tanks, one on each boss. They skip everything and just do the last boss. takes less that 5 min for the whole BG.

Shut up and get your DSL fixed so we can own some AVs again damn it!!! lol

His connection has been screwed up for a few weeks it seems. When I'm in there alone, I'm the ONLY alliance who ever heads south from the start. We have some real noobs on our BG 8( I often have to take both towers myself. I have tanked the boss with my group and two other DPS with IBT and TP guards up and ALMOST win it. I get him to 10%ish and they win 8(

Me and Cat own AV 90% of the time. As long as we keep the east and west tower we win ( even if IBT and TP are still red ) Sometimes horde beat us in the race, but when we get down to the towers with little to no delay we win.

We are on Retaliation battle group. Would love to have more boxers! Even if its horde we face! Send me a PM or log in and talk to Whitelyon if you want. You can use our vent as well.

[valkry]

The end boss in AV has 1.4mil hp with all 4 WMs up, confirmed, for drek anyway

[Stabface]

The 1.4m HP is not really the issue, it's going to be the fear because he hits really hard and the instant your tank gets feared and turns his back he's going to die.
I have 6-8 manned him (not boxing though) with a single tank at 70, I don't know if a single tank could hold all 4 WMs, dogs, and Drek anymore. At L80 I was recently critted for ~32000 on my Warlock -- through SL and ~900 resil -- by the whirlwind from a 4-tower Drek'thar. I don't think he hit this hard back at L70 percentage-wise anyhow. Don't forget all the WMs also cleave / WW so any sort of melee DPS is going to be out of the question. And the chain lightning is going to fry ranged if he casts it on them.

It would be much easier to do with 2-3 tanks, 2-3 heals and some ranged DPS, as long as you're geared. Any melee DPS should probably stay at the keep door and stop people from getting in. For a 5 box group... 2 tanks 2 heals 1 dps, if you're really geared it is probably doable. 2 holy paladins is what I'd take for healers in this case.

[Siaea]

If any reckoning boxers are interesting in doing "premades" with two of us, send me a PM. My server has a public vent with 2 person max channels so it'll be easy to setup the comms. I'll be doing probably 100 more games over the next month so we'll have plenty of opportunities.

I've been pretty much doing solid AV getting my original 'main' shammy leveled (76 now, woot!). I'll have to get a new headseat (stupid pug puppies teething) but I'm all for getting a boxer or two in there with me. I've actually noticed a higher win rate (don't know if it's me, as in a solid group taking objectives, or what) since I started playing again. Maybe like 70%, more in the early morning before work. I can usually haul ass into the SP AS and thunderstorm x5, drop 5 magmas and groundings, and put all 5 of my toons on the flag. Usually one will cap it before she can get interrupted, and that puts us right at the Alliance doorstep.

P.S., back on topic

I got Van solo to about 20% with my 5 eles before I wiped. This is no marshals, and no other horde helping me this morning. I think if I had my DK and tried it, it could be done. Luckily this morning, a few others came in just as I was wiping and picked him up before he reset and we won. Lots of LoLs and cheers for that one.

[Souca]

I Meet Souca in AV

Look for my DKs, been leveling them since last night. They are about to hit 76. All named Kaia with funny chars.

The main reason I was interested in this was I like challenges. The other upsides are being able to steal a win if we are gonna lose anyway. The 6 minute achievement would be nice gravy.

With the 5 DKs, I can hold almost any tower and recap most bunkers. This works until 2-3 80s come together and work together, but that only happens so often.

AV is such a great BG because there are so many strategic aspects that can change an entire match. My least favorite is when someone caps FW right as we are getting to RH and all the horde spawn on top of us. I never understood why capping FW was bad until I was on the receiving end.

- Souca -