Boxing Drek for AV Wins

[valkry]

The end boss in AV has 1.4mil hp with all 4 WMs up, confirmed, for drek anyway

[Stabface]

The 1.4m HP is not really the issue, it's going to be the fear because he hits really hard and the instant your tank gets feared and turns his back he's going to die.
I have 6-8 manned him (not boxing though) with a single tank at 70, I don't know if a single tank could hold all 4 WMs, dogs, and Drek anymore. At L80 I was recently critted for ~32000 on my Warlock -- through SL and ~900 resil -- by the whirlwind from a 4-tower Drek'thar. I don't think he hit this hard back at L70 percentage-wise anyhow. Don't forget all the WMs also cleave / WW so any sort of melee DPS is going to be out of the question. And the chain lightning is going to fry ranged if he casts it on them.

It would be much easier to do with 2-3 tanks, 2-3 heals and some ranged DPS, as long as you're geared. Any melee DPS should probably stay at the keep door and stop people from getting in. For a 5 box group... 2 tanks 2 heals 1 dps, if you're really geared it is probably doable. 2 holy paladins is what I'd take for healers in this case.

[valkry]

Definately doable with 2 boxers, I didn't even have hero and was keeping stoat's tank up easy as.

[Moorea]

I used 3 level 80s to level 2 from 71->77 so I'm kind of happy 80 is mixed as I feel I contribute that way - but otherwise I agree that splitting out the 80s would be nice - but maybe they won't and they'll just do 81-85 with the xpac

[Souca]

Sadly I think if they took 80s out then no one would do AV. All the other BGs are dead and they have 80 only brackets. For the 80s it's mixed bag; lowbies are easy HKs, but too many of them and your team is weak.

My guess is that rated BGs will fill the need for a competitive 80s bracket.

Also, I hate the "lose faster" XP leechs. I'm on my 77s and I'm working my butt off to cap and defend, but these people that worry about their XP per hour really get to me. At least AFK are quiet and reported.

- Souca -

[valkry]

I hate it when people give up and are just like "let them win." No way in hell I'm letting Horde do anything that benefits them without a fight.

[shaeman]

I hate that attitude too.

Pre levelling in BG's it was still rife. 2 minutes in and folks are calling that it's a lose and let the alliance win.

How can you ever become a good pvper if all you do is cave in at the first sign of pressure.

I know that all they want to do is get the honour for the latest gear - but if all you do with it is run into an AV and cry, moan and give in then really what's the point?

If i can stop the enemy downing Drek'thar that's a small victory.
If i can grab sp graveyard when they have us blocked on the hill leading towards the alliance base that's a small victory.
If i can help break the defense on the bridge at Dun Baladar that's a small victory.

And those victories where you have turned things around are the sweetest of all.

Heck - I've even been in an AV where alliance were way ahead, and we managed to take out vanndar by keeping him in combat while everyone resses and gets back in.

[Souca]

I went and did the quest to get the AV trinket. So now I can teleport back all 5 DKs and defend if need be. Aside from being crazy xp at level 78, it's a little disturbing to have 5 DKs suddenly appear at the Aid Station flag. After that I chill with Vann and DG nubs that get in my line of sight so that they get rolfstomped by Vann and his crew. I've saved a few matches this way by wiping healers and tanks before they are ready so the guys down south can get Drek down.

Anyone know if the Death Grip glyph works in AV? Do all the HKs count toward resetting the cooldown?

- Souca -

[stoat]

Locks will be 71 by the weekend, dunno how AVs will go, around half the time it's only me and maybe 1-2 other dudes that make it all the way south and cap gy/towers before the rest catch up.

PLEASE CARRY ME NON-HORRIBLE BLOODLUST ALLIANCE!

[Souca]

I hate that attitude too.

Pre levelling in BG's it was still rife. 2 minutes in and folks are calling that it's a lose and let the alliance win.

How can you ever become a good pvper if all you do is cave in at the first sign of pressure.

I know that all they want to do is get the honour for the latest gear - but if all you do with it is run into an AV and cry, moan and give in then really what's the point?

If i can stop the enemy downing Drek'thar that's a small victory.
If i can grab sp graveyard when they have us blocked on the hill leading towards the alliance base that's a small victory.
If i can help break the defense on the bridge at Dun Baladar that's a small victory.

And those victories where you have turned things around are the sweetest of all.

Heck - I've even been in an AV where alliance were way ahead, and we managed to take out vanndar by keeping him in combat while everyone resses and gets back in.

Let me start by saying, I'm not bragging, I got really lucky and had an awesome pally healing me.

So game starts like normal, Galv down, I head to RH. Like normal, someone caps FW before we even click RH. Waves of Hordies spawn on top of us and eventually we go down. Then the QQ starts as the entire O is pushed back to DB. Somehow we manage to hold TP and IBT and push horde back to Stonehearth. Then the QQ and "lets hurry up and lose" starts.

Now I'm used to this. As soon as anything goes wrong someone decides it's easier to quit. This time we have a huge lead, I mean its 480 resources to something like 200. I fight in the road a bit and help recap a few things, but no one is going south.

I mount up, skirt by next to IW and down the road unscathed. To be honest, I think a few of the horde were afraid of me. Lots of lowbies got mowed down earlier and they were starting to try and avoid me. I stop real fast to kill a warrior on a pally and then mount back up and head south. As I'm passing FW I notice that the pally is following me, and they are also calling everyone idiots for accepting a turtle and not heading south. I like this person already.

We get down to RH and there is no resistance. Cap it and I start to head back to sit between the towers to fend off the horde that will be heading are way, but the pally is already got a rogue back at RH so I turn around and we keep RH. For the next 20 minutes, the pally and I hold RH and fight the horde that keep coming back to get RH. Think there were 3 rogues and one really persistent holy nova spamming priest that managed to perfectly scatter me with psychic scream every damn time.

So this is crazy chaotic. There are only the 6 (or two) of us for the first 4 minutes and it seems like its a constant struggle. I lose one or two DKs, but luckily we have the RH by then so I can just regroup. Finally Alliance starts showing up one by one and we get someone up in the towers to cap and actually defend them since I'm with the pally making sure we keep RH.

10 seconds before the East tower caps we have 200 resources and horde has 20. The pally who has been better than any PR agent could ever be types this:

see i like 5 box players
they get so tired of shitty AV ers they do something about it

That was the best 31 minute AV I've ever been in. Moments like this are why I love AV; you can actually make a difference.

Thanks Terawatt of Duskwood, your heals kicked ass!

- Souca -