True, I have had good pug luck. It also helps that i have so many 80s to pug with, so if i get into a fail pug i dont have to wait a week (which I did last week, half of naxx was down, they were on gluth, so I joined, we made one attempt, nobody could kite right, we wiped, we disbanded... IMO you shouldn't get saved to pugs until a boss dies while you are in there. At least you dont get insta saved the moment u zone in.

Oh how I hate tuesdays.....