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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceorbz View Post
    DPCT for CL is still > then LB. Marginally but still puts out higher #. The issue is the mana cost, and if there is more then one target around. It's really only advisable to throw in CL during your 2nd portion of a rotation.
    Missed this comment but it depends on your level of gear as LB scales much better than CL.

    At the very best CL is approximately 2% better than LB and at higher levels it gets worse - ps your comment almost seems quoted word for word from the Think tank elemental shaman entry on Elitist jerks - if so it is out of date, the general consensus is to just drop CL from your single target rotations altogether

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    Think tank is updated for 3.2, has been for a while. You can also review the 3.2 discussion where this is covered a few times.
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  3. #13

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    The theory craft has not been updated since about July in the TTT though he probably has changed the names of things like wind shear etc

    For the very latest on theory crafting you need to go to Bink's Blog (on EJ) and download SEIC 3.2.0.17 you will notice that none of the rotations even include CL as the combined changes to LO and CL made it no longer desirable against single targets. If it is not desirable for raiding it is even less desirable for heroics where the fight is a lot shorter (higher BL and trinket uptime as a percentage)

    This is not really a mechanics thread so I will leave it there

    The only time you would recommend using CL is at low haste rating - personally I am at 750 haste and have electrifying wind so your mileage may vary
    Last edited by Whowantstoknow : 09-09-2009 at 10:02 AM

  4. #14

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    Wow, great post!!!! Might I ask what kind of DPS numbers your guys pull? I'm in the process of rotating 2 of my Shamen out of my team and putting in my Hunter and Druid. Hunter is Survival at the moment and pulls around 2200-2500 DPS depending on the situation. I'm wondering if MM is better for boxers.
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    My "guess" would be MM is stronger. Does not depend on pet or traps, but LnL is strong for Raids. Tureshot Aura is a good buff although it might gotten else where. My BM hunter is a fresh 80, still trying to gear him up for raiding.
    Can't help you on Shamen, Druids are good, but not as easy to box with.
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    I pull anywhere from 3k to 5k, depending on the fights.
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    Macros updated for 4.0!
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    Protection Paladin:
    Code:
    /castsequence reset=target Hammer of the Righteous,Crusader Strike, Hammer of the Righteous, Shield of the Righteous
    /cast Judgement
    HotR and CS now share the same cooldown. So that sequence is going to be sitting there not doing anything for awhile. From what I've been reading we'll need a single-target macro with CS and an AoE macro with HotR.

    Single-target looks something like:
    Pull with AS > CS > J > CS > HW > CS > ShoR > CS > J > CS > AS > CS > Shor > CS > J > CS > HW > CS > ShoR > CS > AS > CS > J > CS > ShoR > etc.

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    For me a sequence with HotRx3 SotR is screwy. It will only cast two HotR, so I threw in a CS to fix it.
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  10. #20

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    About this:

    /cast elemental mastery
    /castsequence [reset=combat] flame shock, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, Earth Shock, lightning bolt, lightning bolt,
    /cast lava burst
    I wonder if this will be fixed soon. Cant be true they allow a fallthru like this after they fixed castsequence.

    Dont rely on this.

    Tsquared and cataclysm will fix it ... probably.

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