Castsequence vs LB spam

[Lyonheart]

Niley, when you do those 6k+ numbers, what buffs are you using? Are you food/flask/potion wild magic/hero?

BTW, I like that set up spot! I had been doing kind of the same thing. I had my team in the circle backed up against one of the pillars in the fence thingy.

[Niley]

Niley, when you do those 6k+ numbers, what buffs are you using? Are you food/flask/potion wild magic/hero?

BTW, I like that set up spot! I had been doing kind of the same thing. I had my team in the circle backed up against one of the pillars in the fence thingy.

I dont use flasks, except flask of the north on my 2 alchs, no wild pots, no speed pots, heroism is a given '
I have a pretty well geared shamans thought, on the ss from training dummy i didnt use hero or any flasks, just em/trinkets and spam click macro, i didnt even use fire totems except one ToW.

[Niley]

Fur you should come over to IRC chat so I can pick your brain

[Meshuggenah]

Ya, I'm hitting 5.5k DPS with my lead Shaman with heroism popped. Its not that hard once you get your macros right and "tuned" to your gear level (biggest thing is timing for haste, because it'll probably be different on each shaman).

Any chance you could paste in the /click macros you're using (or link to where you have already)? My shamans are sitting just over 2100SP (unbuffed) and I'm only just breaking 4k DPS on bosses. I thought my macro's were doing alright. I have no idea how you guys are getting those sorts of numbers unless you're in BiS gear? Also, what glyphs are you using?

[Niley]

Any chance you could paste in the /click macros you're using (or link to where you have already)? My shamans are sitting just over 2100SP (unbuffed) and I'm only just breaking 4k DPS on bosses. I thought my macro's were doing alright. I have no idea how you guys are getting those sorts of numbers unless you're in BiS gear? Also, what glyphs are you using?

/assist focus
/run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","0")
/cast elemental mastery
/click MultiBarRightButton1
/click MultiBarRightButton2
/click MultiBarRightButton3
/click MultiBarRightButton4
/run SetCVar("Sound_EnableSFX","1")

1st button
/castsequence reset=combat flame shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

2nd button
/castsequence reset=combat lava burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

3rd button
/castsequence reset=combat chain lightning,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

4th button
/cast lightning bolt

I love this macro, but one thing i would like is version of it without cl

These are my shamans, you can see gear, glyphs and spec.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...reaver&n=Niley
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...reaver&n=Arieh
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...mreaver&n=Ishv
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...eaver&n=Yishai

from best to worst geared, although last 2 are kinda even.

[Niley]

Latest result,
Click macro without Chain Lightning
Loken down in 18s which is 3 or 4s better than with castsequence, <3 click

[Whowantstoknow]

Ya, I'm hitting 5.5k DPS with my lead Shaman with heroism popped. Its not that hard once you get your macros right and "tuned" to your gear level (biggest thing is timing for haste, because it'll probably be different on each shaman).

There is the theory of writing separately timed macros for when heroism is used.... but man, that would be a LOT of macros. (reason is heroism also effects the global cooldown, so you could cast some spells like lava burst MORE when heroism is up... like 3x instead of 2x per flame shock).

This is incorrect. Haste affects the GCD which is 1.5s for most spells, it does not affect spell specific cooldowns ie LvB will always cast in 8s no matter how fast you are hasted.

The macro should stay the same for all toons regardless of haste rating as effectively you are just telling Wow to wait the number of seconds that each spell comes off cooldown.

A normal castsequence macro is dependant on haste rating though

imagine a spell with a 6s cooldown your rotation would be (assuming 0 haste effects)

1,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2

if you added enough haste to make the gcd 1s your new rotation would be

1,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2

Note that spell 1 cast 6s apart in both sequences but the number of casts between 1s has increased

the /click (how I hate this misnomer but it will suffice for illustration) method basically is this

1 (drop to next line for 6s) 1 (drop to next line for 6s) 1 (drop to next line for 6s)
2

which will allow the number of 2 cast to vary depending on the GCD ie how much haste you have


if you are still unconvinced run this little script to show cooldowns

/run hooksecurefunc("CooldownFrame_SetTimer", function(_, start, duration, enable) if start > 0 and enable > 0 then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(duration) end end)

[Meshuggenah]

I love this macro

Thanks!

Going to the training dummies now to test the difference. Your shamans are definately better geared than mine, but not enough to account for 1500DPS.
--Edit

After some testing, my DPS has increased around 200-300 average Still a good deal behind you, but you have 400(ish) SpellPower, 200 haste and 7% crit on me.. which might account for the +/-1,000 difference in DPS.

Still, I like the way the click macro takes a lot more advantage of heroism than a sequence does.

[outdrsyguy1]

I changed from /castsequence using Light Bolt, Flame shock, and lava burst, to just plain lightning bolt and was really surprised, my pvp geared (season or 2 old) shaman went from about 1700dps to roughly 2200 just spamming lightning bolt instead (doesn't include heroism). I'll really have to try out the click macro stuff sometime and see how it goes. If i could get out of the AV xp grind soon :P

oh, and my latency is usually around 100 to 200 ms. So i'm not sure it's a huge factor, probably just the /castsequence command having delays in it for some reason.

[Twyman]

Hey thanks for the explination on /click... i didnt really know how it worked.