Am I the only one who looks at this and goes uhhhhhh.......

[simpletom]

So, you are upset because somebody else is willing to do "your" job cheaper?

how do i respond to this, im not looking to cause arguements or a large scale debate at all, Im putting across some simple issues that alot of people who are working in uk are faceing at the moment.

It doesnt effect me at the moment i work in france, but it does have effect on some members of my family and friends which is what gets me upset.

but in my opinion selling out isnt good for anyone.

[Taipan]

@ Stealthy

I may not be up to date on non-french tax matters and I apologize for that.

What's the actual fuel tax charged by US and AUS on international airlines for passengers and for cargo ?

(not the increase in past years, just current % or absolute figures).


/salute

[Fizzler]

Fixing airline security is simple.

One carry on bag, one checked, everything subject to 100% inspection.

Don't like it? Ship your luggage overnight FedEX or UPS. They do ship globally.

lives of the many > the personal privacy of the one

People will cry, bitch, moan, complain, etc. SO WHAT. Take another mode of transportation. Its a f*cking flight people (short trip!), its not a life changing decision. (like getting married, having kids, buying a house, etc...)

Is this not just about what is done now? Its 2 bags 1 carry on and 1 personal item and they are all subject to 100% check and you must now travel with your bags. The problem is not the checking its the execution of it. Basically the TSA had to fill thousands and thousands of positions in a short period of time. One day you were bagging groceries the next day searching for explosives in a carry on. I am not trying to belittle folks working in the grocery industry I am just trying to make a point about how the folks checking your bags are far from experts.

The process is broken with red tape and fear. If you are going to do it do it right.

One sure way to never have a plan crash into a building, seal up the cabin. The Israeli's do it right, if the passengers are threatened the pilots land the plane.

[aetherg]

Yeah, Israel has been dealing with this for decades longer. Despite the fact that they are a much bigger target for terrorism than the United States (for obvious reasons), they actually have less of an incidence of airline hijackings and terrorism. Passengers are checked by people who really know what they're doing, and the cabins are sealed, pilots are trained in what to do.

The Israeli government has also made it very clear that it doesn't negotiate with terrorists; a threat to blow up a plane does not get a response.

[Killmour]

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/


Get out and vote!

[Taipan]

@ Stealthy,

Following up on your answer "Sorry but this is incorrect - USA and Australia both charge fuel taxes to airlines. In fact in Asutralia, the fuel tax has been increased 6 times since 2004", I admit I was a bit puzzled and I thought I should check my point.
So I did a quick google search on "Aviation Fuel and Taxes".

What I found is that :

1. Worldwide airlines are STILL exempted from fuel taxes, based on a 1947 int'l convention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_fuel

2. USA and Australia are actually against a change in that convention (similar logic than on Kyoto ?) while some countries agree to it (but no exemple listed)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_fuel

3. More details about the 1947 Convention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convent...Civil_Aviation

Now Wikipedia can be defective, as we all know, but maybe the fuel taxes you refer to only apply to private/small engine aircrafts (more common in US and AUS than in EU ?) and not to "International Air Travel" ?

In any case, I stand by my initial judgement and I'll admire any one moving away from the current situation :

- Taxing individuals for their use of car gas while exempting airlines and air cargos is both unfair, unbalanced and environmently damaging.
It won't solved the whole pollution mess but it would be a proper step to make.

As one of my teachers used to say "Easy part first, please" 8)

/salute