Lets discuss upcoming changes

[RobinGBrown]

When you have a game where the player base is deconstructing the mechanics with Matlab, well that's the game for me

You should try EVE Online, it's massively over complicated.

OK back to original discussion:

I like the fact that Blizzard have been 'dumbing down' WoW for a long time, I wish other games would do the same, I like playing WoW but one of the reasons I multibox is becasue there are a lot of players out there who are really hardcore and they aren't fun to play with.

WoW succeeds so massively because its easy to sit down for 15-30 mins and have fun, working out itemization using a spreadsheet is not fun and is not quick. In EVE you can't get anything done in under an hour and you need at least two third party applications to work out how to progress. It's the total opposite of WoW and it's almost entirely without fun at all.

When I spend my leisure money I want to get the most fun out of it. Blizzard have figured out that more fun is more players paying them money. It's a win-win. Other games should be as 'dumb'.

[Jamella]

WoW succeeds so massively because its easy to sit down for 15-30 mins and have fun, working out itemization using a spreadsheet is not fun and is not quick.

i do get your point, but you should also keep in mind that there are people who do enjoy thinking / planning their characters.

ontopic: really hope blizz is going to rework the old racials. worgen/goblin seem to be pretty op compared to what othere races got.

[Khatovar]

from MMOChampion:

All races will have updated racials with Cataclysm, they should be similar to what the Goblins have. (Increased health/mana potion effects, etc ...)

[Jamella]

seems like i have missed that one. anyway, very welcome news

[Tonuss]

Fucking sweet, however one thing I noticed. I don't think 5 boxing on one computer will be a good idea anymore. Look at those waters effects, just ridiculous. I might have to buy two more computers. =/

Intel will be shipping low-cost quad-cores by the time the expac ships, and both Intel and AMD should have a variety of multi-core CPUs, including 6, 10, and 12-core chips. Some will be server chips and require an expensive setup, but you should be able to put together a 6 or 10 core system without breaking the bank.

[Tonuss]

mp5 is gone.

By the way, when they were saying that certain stats were GONE, they meant gone from gear itemization. In other words, you will no longer have a gear item with X mana per 5, or with XXX spell power, or with XXX attack power. They plan to go back to the basic stats and have things like MP5, AP, SP, etc based off of the basic stats. AP will be based on 2x AGI or STR depending on class, SP will be based on INT, MP5 will be based on spirit, and so on. Defense, which was mostly used for crit avoidance, will actually be removed and crit avoidance will become a tanking tree talent for tank classes.

But you'll still have attack power, and spell power, and MP5. It'll still show on your character tab and affect your abilities. But it simplifies gear itemization very nicely.

Oh yeah, if anyone already covered this, nevermind.

[jettzypher]

no, youre the first one to clear that up...which is what i was goin to do but you beat me to it... =P

[Multibocks]

Sorry that is what I meant when I said mp5 was gone. I thought it was clear, but I didnt think that people would actually think that they were removing your regen per 5.

[ForgottenMemorie]

-_- (Accident)