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  1. #11

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    Hiya guys.
    Starting multi-boxing in two weeks and have a couple of questions concerning RAF and lvling. I've read quite a bit on the forum, but couldn't find definite answers to my questions below.

    BACKGROUND
    I've got two accounts from before (never dual-boxed though) and I'm gonna add three more for a total of five. The plan is to end up with 5 shammies (one on each account) for PvP fun. I also plan on getting two paladins (on seperate accounts) so I'm able to run instances.

    RAF:
    My plan is to use my two accounts, let's call them A and B, to invite my new accounts (C, D and E).
    A -> C and D.
    B -> E.
    This way all chars will be linked and be able to get the 300% bonus if I'm not mistaken. Anyone wanna confirm that I'm correct?
    I then plan to get chars from accounts C, D and E to 'give levels' to chars on A and B.

    ORIGINAL PLAN:
    My original plan was to make 5 shammies, one on each account, and level them as a team (ele-shammies). The just before they got to 60 'give levels' so I'd end up with 5 shammies ~ 60, 1 pala ~ 60 and 1 pala ~ 30.
    After that basically just lvl the shammie group to 80 and quest the low lvl pala up to high lvl pala, then lvl them together to 80.

    HOWEVER:
    I'm not really sure this is the fastest way to lvl the toons. I read somwhere that instance boosting is faster (I'd like some thoughts on this as well). If so I can use high lvls (got them on both accounts A and B) to drag my toons through instances up to 60 or whatever.
    I could use one account (A) to boost 4 shammies 1 - 60 in instances (B, C, D and E).
    Then use account B to boost last shammie, 2 palas and one more toon in the same manner (B, C, D and E).

    I'd really like som input as to what the fastest method of lvling these gimps are!
    I'm not worried about missing out on content since that starts @ 80 for me. All I want to do is lvl them as fast as possible since I don't have too much time to play. As such I'd like to spend as little as possible lvling


    Thanks!
    /Sorry
    Last edited by sorry : 11-13-2009 at 09:11 AM

  2. #12

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    To boost with A the other 4 must be linked, as you said it, E would not get 3x exp.
    using A to boost 4 toons (linkrd) they can grant a new toon on A to 60.
    Boosting through instances is faster, but you have like repeated runs and such.
    just my [:2 cents:]
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    A + B are existing accounts.
    The best AoE boosters are probably tank types.
    Like Paladin (superb), Bear/Warrior/DK (good).
    AoE classes are ok, if you lack a tank type.

    Between A and B, take the best boost class.

    I'm going to call the account with the better booster A.
    And the other one B.

    Link them like this:
    A - C - D
    B - E

    C and D will both get RAF experience, because they are linked and are close to the same level.
    Similarly B and E will both get RAF experience.
    B needs to be linked, or it won't get RAF.
    And A wants as many accounts as possible linked to it, to cascade granted levels.
    Since A won't actually have any new toons leveling on it.

    You mention that your end goal is 5x Shaman's.
    Assuming you level at least 2 teams, which is very easy with a booster and RAF.
    C by itself will be able to grant a level 1 toon on A, all the way to 60th.
    Ideally, you'd take the toon and make them almost level "x".
    And then boost them until they're almost 61st (percentage into the level remains constant).

    D will be able to grant levels to C (the same number as C can grant to A).
    But C will then be able to grant half as many levels as it receives as extra levels.

    If you're doing RAF, I'd level several sets.
    The 1-60 is very fast, take advantage of it.
    And with granted levels, A will receive at least a few toons boosted to 60th, for the 60-80 sequence joining the teams which you'd RAF boosted to 60th.

    I'd go that route.

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    why not go A>B>C>D>E? Having a brain freeze day, can't see much farther than my nose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    A + B are existing accounts.
    The best AoE boosters are probably tank types.
    Like Paladin (superb), Bear/Warrior/DK (good).
    AoE classes are ok, if you lack a tank type.

    Between A and B, take the best boost class.

    I'm going to call the account with the better booster A.
    And the other one B.

    Link them like this:
    A - C - D
    B - E

    C and D will both get RAF experience, because they are linked and are close to the same level.
    Similarly B and E will both get RAF experience.
    B needs to be linked, or it won't get RAF.
    And A wants as many accounts as possible linked to it, to cascade granted levels.
    Since A won't actually have any new toons leveling on it.

    You mention that your end goal is 5x Shaman's.
    Assuming you level at least 2 teams, which is very easy with a booster and RAF.
    C by itself will be able to grant a level 1 toon on A, all the way to 60th.
    Ideally, you'd take the toon and make them almost level "x".
    And then boost them until they're almost 61st (percentage into the level remains constant).

    D will be able to grant levels to C (the same number as C can grant to A).
    But C will then be able to grant half as many levels as it receives as extra levels.

    If you're doing RAF, I'd level several sets.
    The 1-60 is very fast, take advantage of it.
    And with granted levels, A will receive at least a few toons boosted to 60th, for the 60-80 sequence joining the teams which you'd RAF boosted to 60th.

    I'd go that route.
    Thanks a bunch for what sounds to me like sound advice!
    I've ben toying around with a few different ways to do this, but your method sounds about right. Haven't been playing a lot since TBC, but I do have a 80 warr, 80 drood (resto so crap feral gear) and 80 hunter. I was originally thinking about boosting with the hunter using the gorilla as tank (aoe thunderclap). Then again I have no experience boosting instances like this, so any input is much appreciated. The only reason I'm asking after you mentioned the list is that hunter ain't on it... is it that bad? My experience with hunter = faceroll.

    I was planning doing something like this:

    Both groups
    01-08 Questing I guess
    08-12 Ragefire Chasm
    12-20 Shadowfang Keep
    20-35 Scarlet Monastry
    35-45 Zul’Farak
    45-55 Scholomance or BRS
    55-60 Ramparts

    After that shammies
    60-80 Dunno. Shammie group questing 60-70 then AV? If AV still gives decent xp I can do that easily, especially since I can buy PvP gear with the honor I gain. Always nice to have a few items waiting for me when I hit 80

    /Sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post

    E can give D... 28 levels per level 60 toon, so 112 levels.
    D can give C.. 112 levels too.
    C can give B.. 112 levels too.
    B can give A.. 112 levels too.

    But, because:
    E gave 112 levels to D, D has 56 additional levels to grant to C.
    D gave 112 levels to C, C has 56 additional levels to grant to B.
    C gave 112 levels to B, B has 56 additional levels to grant to A.

    And because:
    D granted 56 additional levels to C, C can grant 28 extra levels to B.
    C granted 56 additional levels to B, B can grant 28 extra levels to A.

    And again:
    B received 28 extra levels from C, they have 14 more to give to A.

    So in all, A will receive from B... 112 + 56 + 28 + 14 = 210 levels.
    I have one account with a level 70 druid and I have been planning for a long time to start multiboxing. I´m still in the planning stages of my characters but in the beginning of 2010 I´ll surely return to WoW. I haven't played retail WoW in over a year now and I would never return if it wasn´t to try the excitement of multiboxing and also the speed of RAF boosting. So I´m planning to boost with my 70 druid and 4 characters at a time, maybe fewer if my math is true.

    Since it's 30 nowadays / 60 char A would receive 225 this would also mean that B would receive 210 levels - 3 extra characters to level 60 + one to 30 C would get 180 levels - 3 level 60s which would mean that you'd get 6 characters to 60 on A 9 on B and C 8 on D and 6 on E.
    Is this correct or am i way off?

    I understand that all characters that i want 5 of I need to level for E but it might be faster if I only had D and E with me on the last few runs.
    Thanks for any input.

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    A is the boosting account.
    B grants to A
    C grants to B
    D grants to C
    E grants to D

    Including cascading levels, A receives:
    0.5000 x Levels Gained by B
    0.2500 x Levels Gained by C
    0.1250 x Levels Gained by D
    0.0625 x Levels Gained by E

    Another way to look at it, for every 60 on BCDE (boosted by A).
    A receives: 30 + 15 + 7.5 + 3.75 granted levels.
    With just one group boosted to 60th, we have 55 granted levels.
    Which means you can level a toon to 5th (almost 6th), grant levels and be almost 61st.

    The fractions of a level cannot be granted.
    But if you level multiple groups, they'll add up to whole numbers.
    Basically if you receive an odd number of granted levels, you need another toon, to make your total even, so you can in turn grant another level.
    Last edited by Ualaa : 11-19-2009 at 06:01 PM Reason: Edited decimal place typo.
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    Sorry to ask a silly question but I haven't RAFed since when it first came out and my memory is fuzzy: if you have say

    A->B->C->...

    ie A RAF B which RAF C...

    And you boost with A - would the fact that A and B are linked cause some problem or blizz never got around to make it not get xp (because A's (booster) level is much higher than B - I suppose B get RAF xp because of C but doesn't get a penalty despite A being in party ?)

    I currently have 6 accounts and I'm considering either going to 10 on my main realm or just getting a new team of 5 (5 pallies) on KJ
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    A -- B -- C...

    A is 80
    B-E are low.

    A -- B, gets you no RAF bonus.
    But B -- C, gets both accounts the RAF.

    So B-E all get RAF, boosted by A.

    And A gets a bunch of cascaded granted levels, for several level 60 toons on A to join those on B-E, for when you go 60-80.
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    Thx Ualaa - so Blizzard after all never "fixed" the boosting and it's now working as intended ? (I remember there was some statement when RAF first came out it wasn't working as it was supposed to)
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