I'm curious what ISBoxer/Inner Space can do that HKN & Keyclone can't

[Lax]

Regarding PiP swapping, can you say if it's as fast in laggy or graphic intensive areas such as Dalaran?

With my HKN setup, PiP swapping is very fast (like that video) pretty much anywhere non-wotlk, but come to wotlk zones it takes a few seconds, and in dalaran can take up to 10-15 seconds.

ISBoxer's PiP swapping speed does not change during gameplay. It's always going to be instant, even in Dalaran.

[Pocalypse]

ISBoxer's PiP swapping speed does not change during gameplay. It's always going to be instant, even in Dalaran.

Thanks for the clarification Lax.

[Bettysue]

I'm not trying to ask questions to show doubt just wanting a bit more understanding. I've used all three on a fairly good comp setup, and Innerspace was the fastest, my question is, if my comp normally lags a bit in Dalaran will the PiP still be instant...or will it lag a little as well? HKN switches really quick for me just about everywhere, but if the comp were lagging a little displaying screens the switch would have what seemed to be a proportional amount of lag. I didn't use Innerspace long enough to test this, but was wondering what would happen.

---EDIT: feel free not to answer that I somehow missed an entire page of posts that answered my question...wooo late night posting

[BoxingGeeks]

I am a current user of keyclone and everything appears to work correctly with it. I have 2 computer that I run it on but was wondering if anyone had an opinion on switching to Isboxer/Inner. I dont like the PiP swapping in keyclone as i find it doesnt swap the windows and resize them correctly. Could be a setup issue...

Looking for anyone experience of switching from keyclone to IS/Inner. Is it worth the ongoing money?

[Greythan]

God Fur, let it go.

For a valued member of the community you come off like a snotty brat all too often.

You're feelings on IS are well documented.

Yet, here's the reality:

- Botting ability is available in HKN, IS, and (I believe) GCP. There may be more. There are a ton of ways for a user to violate the ToS. The user violates the ToS, not IS (et al).
- We have NO known ToS issues for legit users of any of these programs by users in this community to multi box.
- Not all of us can (or care) to hardware box which is, I believe, your personal preference.

So, unless you have something useful to say on the topic of IS (or any other solution that has PROVEN to be useful to this community) do us a favor and keep quiet.

[Greythan]

Boxinggeeks,

I've used IS now for the better part of 9 months. The PiP speed literally changed the way I play for the better. I could not go back easily to a lag-based PiP solution.

That said, Keyclone's PiP worked fine for me in terms of resizing, so I'd guess you have some type of configuration problem. Rob's great so if you can't find an answer... ask him.

[zanthor]

God Fur, let it go.

For a valued member of the community you come off like a snotty brat all too often.

You're feelings on IS are well documented.

Yet, here's the reality:

- Botting ability is available in HKN, IS, and (I believe) GCP. There may be more. There are a ton of ways for a user to violate the ToS. The user violates the ToS, not IS (et al).
- We have NO known ToS issues for legit users of any of these programs by users in this community to multi box.
- Not all of us can (or care) to hardware box which is, I believe, your personal preference.

So, unless you have something useful to say on the topic of IS (or any other solution that has PROVEN to be useful to this community) do us a favor and keep quiet.

Quote for truth.

The G15 keyboard on Fur's very own desk is able to easily used to violate the TOS.... yet somehow it doesn't.

[Barelan]

God Fur, let it go.

For a valued member of the community you come off like a snotty brat all too often.

You're feelings on IS are well documented.

Yet, here's the reality:

- Botting ability is available in HKN, IS, and (I believe) GCP. There may be more. There are a ton of ways for a user to violate the ToS. The user violates the ToS, not IS (et al).
- We have NO known ToS issues for legit users of any of these programs by users in this community to multi box.
- Not all of us can (or care) to hardware box which is, I believe, your personal preference.

So, unless you have something useful to say on the topic of IS (or any other solution that has PROVEN to be useful to this community) do us a favor and keep quiet.

GCP is specifically designed to prevent botting. If anyone finds a way, then let me know and we'll take it out.

[Eggy]

Okay, I'm a faithful user of HKN, but I do wonder if ISBoxer and Innerspace really isnt the superior solution? I havnt tried ISBoxer, and only used Innerspace for EQ and diablo2, so I have no experience with it in WoW. So maybe if someone could enlighten me...

My problem with HKN is that if I spam a key too much, it will get caught in lag and has to catch up befor I can issue new commands, I'm wondering if it's the same deal with IS? Likewise if I issue too many commands too fast, it will simply not send em to the correct screen but instead send em to my focus screen, which is annoying and slows down my game play by alot.

About the PiP, it all sounds pretty great with IS I have to admit, that alone is almost enough to make me switch.

[Lax]

My problem with HKN is that if I spam a key too much, it will get caught in lag and has to catch up befor I can issue new commands, I'm wondering if it's the same deal with IS? Likewise if I issue too many commands too fast, it will simply not send em to the correct screen but instead send em to my focus screen, which is annoying and slows down my game play by alot.

No, IS does not have that issue. You should be able to spam buttons all day long, and it would be pretty difficult to have your keys be misinterpreted and sent to the wrong window.