Castrandom Change

[Crel]

Whoa, this explains why my dps has gone to crap :P. Ill have to re-write ALOT of macros. Like Fur said, it(was) very usefull for situational procs, one being my Dk's Rune strike. Glad I saw this, was about to heroic farm!

[blast3r]

Well, my DPS isn't near what it was but at least I can still down all the heroic bosses i could before the change. So maybe I'm not leaving just yet.

[LokNarash]

I've entered the heroic HOL to get my first 2 Emblems of Triumph, and i just had to go out after the first two packs. This change to /castrandom has serious impact on my mixed team. I've enjoyed the very relaxing way to play this game (the mash button was associated to 'mousewheel up')

For balance druid or holy priest it's not big hit, there are just few spells on CD, so /castsequence was always the option.
For my other three classes, prot paladin (everything has CD), elemental shaman and destro lock, it's fatal impact as /castsequence is not useable (paladin) or just very gimped for them, due to spells that have CD. Puting spells with CD into castsequence is just possible when done carefuly and it results in significant DPS loss.

I've tryed to se up the /click macro yesterday, but with no luck. I'll try again if this still has the same function like before 3.2.

Maybe it would be possible to implement 'randomizer' feature to Keyclone, that should allow to send for one keypress one random key (from user defined list) to all clients. I guess the value of the software would be one step higher.

[HelmoAlkou]

I just got redirected to this thread. WOW, no wonder! My Shaman spend more time standing around looking at each other now.
Personally I tested and retested /castrandom vs. /castsequence on the dummies in SW. Large majority of the time my /castrandom gave a higher dps and total dmg. But different people get different results. It's a long ongoing disscution, , well it WAS ongoing.....may be over now ;o)

[heffner]

Not to derail the thread, but if you put a series of /click commands into a single macro will they every get stuck/held up? Been awhile since I messed around with click, but what happens in this case:

main macro
/click button1
/click button2
/click button3

Does it try to press 1,2 and 3 simultaneously or do I have to press the main macro button three times to get button 1, 2 and 3 to go off in sequence??? I never managed to figure it out when I was trying to optimize my arcane mage macro.

[Greythan]

For the mixed team this is a challenge too.

My paladin is on a 696 castsequence macro. No impact.

My priest doesn't random or sequence anything. All direct called spells.

My shaman was using a castrandom to get chain lightning in the mix for trash pulls. I'll either go castsequence back to flame shock/lvb/lb/cl or a straight lb spam.

My mage uses a gimped castsequence anyway because I haven't cared to try to optimize. 3 arcane barrages followed by an arcane blast and arcane missles (hoping to take advantage of the mage missle proc).

Warlock is demo specced so I've been using a straight shadowbolt spam + Felguard on him. Suboptimal I've noticed, but no impact here.

I clear Gundrak in under an hour without wipes.

My point is for grinding badges in heroics, this is not a death blow. For optimizing DPS in raid or other "stretch" settings.... it probably hurts a bit.

[Maxion]

I noticed this bug/change when i tried playing my multiclass team today.
/castrandom was unable to cast anything at all for me, even when i tried to make it cast random pally blessings, so i replaced all my castrandoms with castsequences and /cast's.

[Ualaa]

My paladin uses:

#show Holy Shield
/stopmacro [mod]
/click MultiBarBottomRight10

On MultiBarBottomRight10, I have:

#show Holy Shield
/castsequence reset=8 Holy Shield,Hammer of the Righteous,Judgement of Wisdom,Shield of Righteousness,Consecration,Hammer of the Righteous,Holy Shield,Shield of Righteousness,Judgement of Light,Hammer of the Righteous,Consecration,Shield of Righteousness

The second macro is 255 characters long, so this runs fine even without any addons. Honestly, I'd like double Judgement of Wisdom, but Light is a character less then Wisdom and I'm at the 255 character limit.

My shammies have:

#show Lightning Bolt
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton9
/Click MultiBarBottomRightButton10

On 9, I have:

#show Lightning Bolt
/castsequence reset=8 Lightning Bolt,,,,,,,,,,,(comma's to 255 limit)

On 10, I have:

#show Lightning Bolt
/castsequence reset=8 Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt

With their level of haste, this gets me 1x Lightning Bolt and then Flame Shock refreshed just after it expires, with two Lava Bursts along its duration. Lightning Bolt spam in between. The reason for the first LB is to give my pally a moment to build a bit of aggro.

For the pally, I'm clicking a simple sequence, with each ability clicked at about the point it is clickable. For the shammies, they're going 1 LB, and then a castsequence.

I personally spam at 2 presses per second. For this team, I'm not really utilizing /Click to the fullest. Will definitely need to adjust my hunter in the mixed team - was using the /click's posted in the /Click thread.

[Nuclearone]

Due to this change and the effect it has had on my dps, I am canceling three out of five accounts. I may continue to still multibox my healer and tank, but I'm not sure.

I'm aware that there may be other ways to make my characters still work, but I'm not really interested in changing after 2 years + of playing them the way I was.

I don't really know how you guys feel about it, but I find that this stealth change by Blizzard is poor form. It is as if they knew it would be grossly unpopular, and wanted to hide it as if no one would notice. It's a pretty big change from how things were done, and it affects more than our admittedly small comunity here. The crying on the wow forums, both for and against, demonstrates this.

When I found out how badly my characters were performing following the patch, I got a distinctly unpleasant feeling in that place you don't talk about at parties.

This is a low point for me in my multiboxing career. No other changes that I've dealt with have made such a difference to me as a multiboxer. With that actually typed out, I fear I may be over-responding, but the sick feeling remains.

[mmcookies]

make sure you express all that in your cancellation form now

cuz we ain't gonna do anything about it