Dk vs Pally for a 4x Shaman PVE Heroic group??

[moosejaw]

This thread has me wanting to integrate my other 80's. I leveled my old solo toons to 80 as a group (never intending to instance them) before I leveled the paly/shaman team. two weeks ago I fired up the shaman team and leveled to 80 and started doing heroics. I have a dk, Lock, priest, hunter and mage all ready to join in. I might set them up with the paly tank and see how bad/good the priest healing is. the priest actually did some heroics/raids solo so she is much better off on gear than the others.

My only druid is mired at 40. I need to get on the instance grind to level his butt up and join the fun.

As for your resto spec, it is almost the same as my resto except I took improved shields instead of ghost wolf, Ancestral healing, tidal force and shortened reincarnate. You probably took ghost wolf for pvp but you could always save up and dual spec your resto shaman. I love the resto shaman.

[Eggy]

Well, I run both a mixed group and a shaman group, and I gotto say that the mixed group pulls out ahead, but they arnt 80 yet, the mixed crew is at 73 while my shamans should be 80 soonish. I did run quite a few tests at 72 doing the same instances and like I said, the mixed group pulls ahead by alot at that level.

I got a DK and a paladin as tank, and they both perform similar in terms of tanking. Mixed group is usualy DK(Frost spec), Boomkin, Mage(arcane), lock(dest) and priest(holy, but thinking about speccing disc). At 72 the Mage and lock was both doing around 1400 DPS while my shamans and boomkin was around 800, ofcourse I didnt have Lava Burst yet and i'm eager to see how they stack up at 80, but I can't imagin that it will be anywhere near my mage and lock even with lava burst. However at that level I do plan to mix and match as I see fit, theres really no reason not to as the mixed crew could really use the totems and the shamans imo, could use the +spell damage and/or group healing of the priest(LOVE Prayer of Mending).

[Lyonheart]

I'm assuming you mean more than one ELEMENTAL Shaman. As one of my three is Resto. <3 Chain Healz & Earth Sheildz

Anyway, I'm seriously considering dropping my second Elm. Shaman for a Fire Mage. I've been theory crafting about it all day, and I've got a Mage on that account around level 50 already. /w00t

My group would end up being:
Prot. Paladin
Resto Shaman
Elemental Shaman
Balance Druid
Fire Mage (*maybe* frost)

The Paladin + 4x Shaman group is tried and true. It works, period. But as my multiboxing skillset has greatly increased over the last year or so, I find myself looking for new challenges. I took on the Druid as a new challenge, and I think I've got that sorted out. Now I want to add more. I would add a Priest too, but I hate the way a Priest heals. (had a 70 one, just don't like it)

I used to think 4x tremor totems was mandatory, staggered of course. I've overcome that. I used to thing grounding totems were mandatory - haven't used them since Wrath went live (well, a little in PvP).

As you play more and do more - you'll get better. And a lot of the crutches you used you'll learn to live without. Shaman resurrection is a huge crutch... learn2group heal instead. 4x Chain heal is another. I'm not knocking these abilities, I think they're cool as hell - but you can get more out of a group when you add more classes and synergize. My Shaman are always at the top or near the top of the damage meters in 25 man raids. They work great, trust me (the Boomkin helps them get there with the 13% dmg buff). But the thought of having all the perks of a Mage are always in the back of my mind. Portals? YES PLZ. When I do dailies / questing I spend a crap ton of time traveling. A Mage could really help that. - and with the new expansion being back in Azeroth - back in the old world - Portals are going to be invaluable!

Anyway... wall of text crit for 10k

you just inspired me to finish leveling my mage ( 74 atm ) I got my 2nd T9 for my team yesterday and am bored. Time to gear up the druid and Mage!

[thedreameater]

This thread has me wanting to integrate my other 80's. I leveled my old solo toons to 80 as a group (never intending to instance them) before I leveled the paly/shaman team. two weeks ago I fired up the shaman team and leveled to 80 and started doing heroics. I have a dk, Lock, priest, hunter and mage all ready to join in. I might set them up with the paly tank and see how bad/good the priest healing is. the priest actually did some heroics/raids solo so she is much better off on gear than the others.

My only druid is mired at 40. I need to get on the instance grind to level his butt up and join the fun.

As for your resto spec, it is almost the same as my resto except I took improved shields instead of ghost wolf, Ancestral healing, tidal force and shortened reincarnate. You probably took ghost wolf for pvp but you could always save up and dual spec your resto shaman. I love the resto shaman.

I did take ghost wolf for pvp, but I'm really going resto for pve - so I'll switch it back. Eventually I might pvp as resto, but until I have the gear to 4x ele, pve = one resto, 3 ele.

Thanks!