Dk vs Pally for a 4x Shaman PVE Heroic group??

[Teamshug]

i Thank all you guys that took the time to post and help me out!!! XD

My Dk is sitting in hellfire shelved hehe

I did end up doing something drastic.... i made a new account just for the RAf bonus.. and my pally is now lvl 24 ish.

however... it sucks to boost with a single ele shaman.. i have a feeling, late in the 60's twords BC ill need to bring in more shamans to boost faster and mor efficient.



ADD: ohh and i saw videos of how a DK has to use a taunt spell, just like a mage uses blizzard and that instantly turned me off to Dk taking.

[Zal]

Pally because DKs keep getting owned by the nerf bat

[thedreameater]

My boys are finally 80 and I want to run dungeons, but do I need to dual spec one resto? I have LHW bound so all my shaman heal the tank - yet this stops dps.

What has worked? Turning one resto or is it not needed?

[Lyonheart]

My boys are finally 80 and I want to run dungeons, but do I need to dual spec one resto? I have LHW bound so all my shaman heal the tank - yet this stops dps.

What has worked? Turning one resto or is it not needed?

I find that just keeping one shamy resto is easy. I can clear many bosses in heroics with 4 ele BUT some fights are just easier with someone as a full time healer. I could clear all trash and most bosses with 4 Elemental shaman but I just like the ease of having a resto full time. And before your geared you NEED a resto unless you want to stop dps to heal a lot. So 1 resto healing and 3 Ele DPSing all the time or 4 eles stopping to heal.

[thedreameater]

before your geared you NEED a resto unless you want to stop dps to heal a lot. So 1 resto healing and 3 Ele DPSing all the time or 4 eles stopping to heal.

What would you define as geared? I am clearly not there yet, but curious to know when I've arrived. :P You can see my armory in my sig.

Thank you SOOO much for the fast response - god damn I love this community. I get asked "How are you doing that!" and such all the time in BGs and always send them to this site because the community rules so much.

[thedreameater]

You have two (well, three) options.

1) Paladin + B.Druid + 3x Shaman

2) DK + 4x Shaman

3) The third would be Paladin + B.Druid + Warlock + 2x Shaman

First time you battle rez - innervate a downed toon, you'll fall in love with the Balance Druid.

Lots of folks here have went on and on about the DK 13% Dmg. Buff. The other two classes that bring that are B.Druids and Warlock (CoE).

Yeah, druid is next to be added to the list. THX!

[Schwarz]

here is my question about the 13% damage deal.

Has there been anything that Needed the 13% damage debuff? I know more dps = faster dead things.

I recently made the decision to go 1 tank (paladin) and 4 shaman. I just like the feel of this better than 1 tank 3 shaman 1 druid/warlock. I am pretty sure I didn't shoot myself in the foot. I see the 13% damage as a perk not a necessity.

[thedreameater]

When should 4 elemental shaman start doing heroics? What SP, Crit, health, and other stats should they have? In this set up does anyone break from dps to heal, do all of them, or do we just burn everything?

[Schwarz]

Well it is my hope that 4 healing stream totems + earth shield will kinda keep the tank up.

The whole thing about keeping 4 shaman is kinda nostalgic for me. I 5 boxed shaman in BC. I brought up 4 shaman and a mage (bad bad decision should have went 5th shaman or tank).

So fuhr in response to your question I have one for you. Why do you have more than 1 shaman? Adding a Priest Healer will also add buffs (stam/wisdom i think). Basically I think it is a slippery slope and I decided to stay at the top.

[thedreameater]

to Schwartz and Fur - the reason I went 4 ele shaman was because of the 'tried and true' promise as mentioned. Plus I love shaman. I have gotten SOOO much better, also. I'm able to watch both Bunkers in AV simultaneously now.

In the future I might add a druid to the line up. I already have a pally and DK at 80, Druid at 70, on my main account. The only reason I am running heroics, however, is to gear up for pvp. Pvp is my main focus and quadding 4 shaman in pvp has become second nature.

I'll be switching one of my shaman to resto tonight. Any resto specs which work best for 3 ele, 1 rest, 1 tank?

What about this - http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc...10501122031251

Thanks again!