More Anti-Boxer Content in 3.2

[shaeman]

I doubt blizzard don't sit down and design instances on how difficult it will be to multibox.

[stoat]

if they leave the difficulty level of the 5 man first encounter (vehicle fight) where it is, it'll be fine. It's completely doable as a multiboxer. It's completely trivial now for a normal group though (more difficult to box, 1 char always seems to get focused so he loses all his shield charges but not impossible) so I would expect they might tune up the encounter some. If they do ratchet it up I'll probably just get one of the other multiboxers to run their tank with my shamans, and I'll do the same - then have the tank kiting the main hard hitting dudes on the first encounter while zerging the adds.

For those that haven't seen it normal mode is pretty much killing 1 commander 3 lts (like in the daily) in waves (same argent mount mechanics). It is zergable. Heroic might be zergable too, but I died pretty horribly trying to - only made a couple attempts though. You can hop off your horse and grab a new one at any time and (most of the time) it resets/reduces the agro on whatever is currently attacking that person.

[Tasty]

I'd be extremely disappointed if we didn't learn to adapt and by we I mean everyone but me, I'm not a raider :P

[Creazil]

If you're a 4 or 5 boxer and can't get past Flame Leviathan in Ulduar10, you're doing something VERY wrong. It's not hard at all, and you can basicly 5-man it without using exploits. Ofcause you won't be able to manage it hardmode, but you can get past it. I've done it without any troubles, but haven't continued, tho. It might require some friends that knows what they're doing, but that should be doable aswell. Another factor is your item level, which determines your damage and health of your vehicle, which means you can't do this is green gear.

[pinotnoir]

I can't tell you how much I hate vehicles in this game. If I had the chance I would punch the guy who thought it up in the face. They are so stupid and it feels like a Nintendo 64 game from ages past using them. I will never understand why blizzard has a hard on for these POS vehicles. They look like shit, move like shit, and add no fun to the game for me. I am not speaking as a boxer because I hate them just as much playing 1 toon. I feel like a handicap guy in a wheel chair at the special Olympics every time I use one of them. No offense to the handicap.

[Tdog]

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[Tdog]

I like vehicles - but the interface that WoW uses is so clunky. It could have been done so much better.

Feels rushed honestly.

one word...Activision.

[Bovidae]

So many good points in this thread, I had to reply and add my own.

If its anything like the mounts you ride for the dailies, then it shouldn't be too bad.

<-- multiboxes Jousting Mounts =P

Indeed. Unless they make one horse a healer and another a tank, it should be very similar to what you and I do every day. I forgot to quote the zerg-bomb strat, but it applies.

How many active raiders are out there in the boxing community? (not many)

/raises hand

I can't tell you how much I hate vehicles in this game. If I had the chance I would punch the guy who thought it up in the face. They are so stupid and it feels like a Nintendo 64 game from ages past using them. I will never understand why blizzard has a hard on for these POS vehicles. They look like shit, move like shit, and add no fun to the game for me. I am not speaking as a boxer because I hate them just as much playing 1 toon. I feel like a handicap guy in a wheel chair at the special Olympics every time I use one of them. No offense to the handicap.

I couldn't have said it better. I haven't been a keyboard turner since May of... fuck, idk the year, but it was the first one. But getting back in a vehicle felt like I was on Novocain.


I've got my team copied over and my dailies are all already done for today's reset (late night) hopefully I can find a few PUGs on the PTR to give it a go.

[Ualaa]

I've found a few of the vehicles where follow just will not work.

With most of them, my targettarget system will allow me to follow my current target.
With a few, I have to use Focus to follow, but can follow my focus.

With some, follow just will not work.
Running one toon 50 feet or 200 or whatever.
Then go to the next window and repeat.
Then the next window and repeat.
Then the next window and repeat.
Then the 5th window and repeat.

Then the first window and 200 more feet.
Then the...

A piece of shit design, whoever implemented thse.

[Stabface]

Flame Leviathan is free loot if you have high ilvl gear. We 4 man it every week with alts in mostly ilvl 213 stuff, and even 2 manned it before in ilvl 232/226 gear. It should be trivial to 10 or even 5-box in 3.2 with Conquest badge gear out of 5 mans. Gear scaling gives you average ilvl-170 in % increase so if you're in full 226 gear that's x1.56 more damage, do the math and you'll see he dies in like 60-70s tops. Relentless PvP gear and the new badge/raid gear is ilvl 245 or 75% more damage!

Some guildmates tried the new 5 man on PTR and said it's a super easy fight (if really buggy right) so I have hopes that clearing it 5-box will be doable with the proper strategy.