To those who have 5 of everything.

[Fat Tire]

I have to say that 5 warlock team is most fun i had boxing, in fact i have so much fun with them i even considered stopping raiding and just playing them, its like i get home and i cant wait to play :P Like in the good old days when wow was still fresh, they're level 23 right now, and i was able to do stockades/deadmines at just lvl 18. I know that that team wont be able to do heroics, but seriously i don't even care, I cleared them all on my main team, and i can always swap 3 warlocks for 3 shamans, and make one shammy resto.

I love my 4 warlocks. I really enjoy the different aspects they can bring to any fight. There are just more options or tricks than any other class. I do sub atleast one of them in now since I find tanking with a pally much easier than the DK and I want the SP buff. Pvp wise they are just a blast, granted they are no good at 5v5 but I have tried 3v3 and I have won around 40% of my games in 3s and they are just as fun in BGs as shamans. I only run 4 in BGs since I am more comfortable with that. I tried the melee(x4 Rets) and found it just wasnt for me, I guess I am just a caster at heart.

[d0z3rr]

Ok I can really see that hunters team is just not viable for heroics ( and even level 80 regular dungeons). The damage to pets is starting to get insane. I tried AN and got the crap beat out of me. Oh well!

Currently my alt team of paladins is 48. Their gear isnt up to snuff( <3 RAF) so they have a hard time in dungeons. I tried ZF and while I can do it, it was kinda slow. I keep them all ret and dont even bother equipping a shield to keep damage down. I sleep one target and then beat down whats left. It's pretty fast, but not as fast as a healer + tank setup. I think if they had level appropriate gear it would have been much much easier. Level 15-25 greens arent cutting it anymore, lol.

What level were you when you tried ZF? I cleared it very easily and quickly at 46 without any deaths. I have 5 paladins all retribution. You really gimp yourself when you use a 1h+shield because you do a lot more dmg with the 2h.

I could do those big 5mob pulls even, all I had to do was get aggro on individual paladins and just burn the mobs down. If it was a three pull I just ran into the group with my main and most of the time didn't even need to heal. At that level you can do constant consecrates, then just judge to get mana back thanks to that talent. I'd say these paladins are killing stuff just as fast as my hunter team did, if not faster.

I never stopped to upgrade gear and only used quest rewards, so I'd say most of my gear was mail with a few plate items. I got some good 2h weapon drops along the way so all their weapons were up to date.

I'm about to start a 5 shaman group after these paladins, and I'm wondering if they will even be able to keep up with the dmg output. Sure they may be able to CL a group of mobs and spam lightning bolt, but afterwards they'll have to drink. Whereas my paladins have a path of destruction with no stopping, ever.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

On a sorta side note, I've gotten to the point where I just about won't play a multibox group that doesn't have either wipe prevention (soulstone, etc.) or at least one rezzer, preferably 5, in the group. Nothing I hate more than having one guy die and having to run his lame ass back across the zone and into the instance because I can't rez him. /grumble