The d-b.com Community

[Multibocks]

No one reads the stickies anyways. As for the first post of this thread... is that not a classic example of someone coming in and stirring the pot?? All under the guise of saving d-b.com community. Newish poster? Check. Flame worthy post? Check. Calling Mods into question? Check. Ok that's three, he's outta here.

Here I got an idea, let the guys who run this site... run it. Damn that was HARD to figure out.

[Tonuss]

Enough smack for him, for the rest i think dual-boxing.com dont want any other multiboxing software promoting on their website because then Keyclone will have concurents. I can understand this but its kind of lame not giving anyone a chance. I mean, were part of an COMMUNITY if anyone makes a program or an addon its to help these guys browsing here out, and not to fight a war about it. Were like brothers, were not like America and Vietnam.

To all you guys thats gonna flame this, save the trouble since im not going to read this thread anymore.

I wish people wouldn't do this, make a bunch of claims and then say 'don't bother responding, I'm not going to read it.' I think it's better not to have written the post at all, if you did not want people to respond. And if you do not plan to return and read the replies, then there's no need to inform us. It's as if you're demanding to be given the last word.

As for the point about Keyclone, there is discussion about many other software applications that help out multiboxers. I use both keyclone and Jamba, and as far as I know KC has nothing to do with Jamba and vice-versa. As far as I know, only two programs are forbidden from discussion here and that is because they either violate the TOS or they pose enough of a risk that the guys who run the site don't want to promote them. There was a person who started a discussion recently about his own multiboxing software, and after an initial unfriendly reaction he has been accepted as far as I can tell. If the idea was to use this site to promote keyclone, then they would block all other software, not just the risky ones.

I don't worry about the multiboxing community, here or anywhere else. I like this site because I like the people here. As long as that is the case, I'll participate in this forum and not worry about what anyone else is doing. I gave up on "forum wars" or "community wars" years ago, and don't waste my time with them these days.

[Tonuss]

Sam, I understand where you are coming from with most of your points. I'm a capitalist at heart, and have nothing against someone wanting to make money from their labors. Sure, people want everything to be free... except for anything that they make money from themselves. I appreciate that the owners of this site have decided to keep the site free to use, but would not be upset if they made it a pay site. I'd rather pay for the site than have it disappear for lack of funds, after all. However, this part:

All these things he is accused of are underhanded business tactics used by Bill Gates and Intel and tons of other sucessfull individuals and compainies.

I have to disagree with. I think that there is a difference between being ambitious and ruthless, and with being underhanded or even criminal. It may be true that a lot of successful people and companies got where they were by putting aside ethics and morals (and in some cases, the law). But I wouldn't want to use them as an example of who to emulate. That's effectively saying that "crime pays."

I am in support of the decision to remove from the community a guy who was acting the way that Ellay and Keyclone described, particularly if he was threatening to undermine your community in order to build his. I don't think the community needs people who draw boundaries and try to undermine a community and call it "marketing."

[Vecter]

No one reads the stickies anyways. As for the first post of this thread... is that not a classic example of someone coming in and stirring the pot?? All under the guise of saving d-b.com community. Newish poster? Check. Flame worthy post? Check. Calling Mods into question? Check. Ok that's three, he's outta here.

Here I got an idea, let the guys who run this site... run it. Damn that was HARD to figure out.

Well like I have stated my intention was only to ask about how we can continue to put d-b.com in the best light possible when I, or you, or anyone who cares, comes across posts on other wow related sites that create a negative perception about d-b.com and multi-boxing. I had no desire to have this turn into a discussion about the unmentionable, software authors, ethics, or anything else. My involvement in including the unmentionable in the discussion was only because of the thread mentioned which I do realize was a fatal mistake. It derailed my intention and for that I apologize.

Sure we can just let those in charge of d-b.com run the site and handle it all on their own, but I feel as a community we come down with one hand and lead together.

Note: I am not sure where you got "calling mods into question" from my post and if that was your perception please understand that was in no way the intention.

[Svpernova09]

I say take the high road and let TS post, show him you are better then he is. Or cut him a 50/50 deal and sell out and turn DB into a profesisonal product. DB has the eginerring abilities and best poducts; TS has the marketing BS ... those are stong combinations when put together, weak when seperate.

Oppotunity does not last forever.

We don't support douchebags or people who sell ToS/EULA violating software. End of story. Nothing to debate. Nothing to discuss.