Software Choices

[Row199]

Hello Dual-Boxing.com Community!
I am new to these forums. I started dual-boxing yesterday after much deliberation, and am finding it tremendously entertaining. WoW gets pretty repetitive playing only one toon at a time. This is a new challenge!
Anywho, I have been doing research today at work (very work-related, I swear!), and I was wondering if anyone could assist me in picking software.

I see that Jamba and MBv2 are good WoW add-ons for general stuff, but a third party (FULLY WoW LEGAL!) program would really save me a lot of hassle.
I am leveling a Druid and a Shaman on a single Vista computer with a single monitor. My graphics card and memory are quite adequate and I am not encountering and lag whatsoever.
Up until now (got them to level 8 last night), I have to alt tab between the two WoW screens (accounts) to target and cast spells, etc... Very tedious.
It seems silly - both cast nature ranged attack with the "2" key, and "1.5 sec cast heal" with the "4" key.

Which of the following programs would be best?
I have seen:
Keyclone
Autohotkey
Mubox
Hotkeynet
Mousecloner
InputDirector
Octopus

Any guidance on what would fit my specific setup (one Vista PC, one monitor, two characters simultaneous with similar abilities) would be enormously appreciated.

Thanks!
Row199

[Ogloo]

Keyclone, it is the most used hear, because it is easy to setup, and all of us have a lot of knowladge how to set it all up.. You will need all the required macros once it pressed both 2's or 4's in both windows.. for example for a mage

mage 1- bob
mage 2- billy

mage 1's macro

/cast fireball

mage 2's macro

/assist bob
/cast fireball

[Ogloo]

This will take some of the studying out.. a old post I made


hat you will need-

1. keyclone
2. addons- automaton, jamba, pitbull
3. macro's (which are simple! once u learn how to do them)

1. Download automaton, jamba, and pitbull (or a UI that allows u to bind any keys to any spells in wow)..
2. Keyclone- keyclone is a program used (19.99$) that can be downloaded off this site. What keyclone does is, it links whatever key presses you do on wow1 and wow2 (different wow's open on ur computer)... There are several things you need to do to become advanced at keyclone. But most of the things come already started for you. Once you install keyclone and your set, and have 2 accounts open ur first wow. Go into your game options and select windowed mode. Move ur size of ur new wow window to fit half the screen or however u want to set it up. Then, open a second wow, make another character and split the screen again to have it set as you want it...
3. u have ur characters made-- dont get carried away.. keep ur characters at the starting spot because all the keys are bound, and this gets realllllly messy...
4. is it working?- before you get moving around.. press spacebar while on "wow1", you should see both "wow1", and "wow2" jump at the same time.. this means that keyclone is working and ur set and ready for the more complicated stuff.. if not working.. going back and makesure keyclone is open, and keyclone has noticed you have opened wow.
5. Do-Not-pass- in keyclone, there is a tab called, "do not pass" go into this window. click the area that says "<click here and hit a key>".. dont hit a key please... (these are the keys that will not be transfered from "wow1" to "wow2".. ) you will want to have keys like, C, H, L, M, O, P, Enter, /,... ect.. while your running around and trying to open different windows, its very difficult to have all of the windows opening and closing.. whenever u see a problem with things opening.. just go to hear and put them in thedo-not-pass...
6. keybinds-- in wow settings- while on "wow2" go into ur settings and to keybinds.. this is another way that u can use make it so the alt does not do what the main is doing.. This is where ur going to go to "movement keys" and unbind the keys w,a,s,d,.. or up, down, left, right keys.. whichever u use to move.. This is so that you can have the main move and not the alt. (if u want to get fansy, you can have the movement keys for the main w,a,s,d.. and for when u just want the alt to move (for getting out of aoe or something).. u can use the arrow keys..)... Some more items that u might want to unbind are "enter" and "/" because u dont want them all talking at once!.
7. Macros--the most important part!!!-

1. follow- when u just start a character say the first "free" button is "3" because u have like 2 spells at the start.. On "wow1" you will leave this space blank forever.. on "wow2" you will make a macro.. and place it on the button 3.. this is what the macro should look like.. ..... /follow wow1 (wow1= the name of ur main character name.,.. which i do not know).. place this on the button 3 on the alt, and leave it blank on the others..
2. Shoot- now that u are running around and jumping at the same time and ur figuring it out, now its time to kill a mob. (dont do quests yet please).. (pretend ur a mage...) the only spell u have at the begging is fireball.. on ur main, you will leave button "2" as fireball, and then on the alt, you will create a macro place the macro on button 2.. replacing the normal spell please!!!- the macro should have the same picture to make it easier.. you will need a macro that looks like this /assist wow1 (now press enter to go down a line)... /cast fireball

1. again-- do this step again for all spells that you get.. but do not use them for self cast things like frost shield.. because u want to give that to urself..

8. addons- and finally, you will need to setup macros. which are self explanatory..
Jamba= a addon that links that accounts so that they auto accept groups, trades, quests, focus, follow (pulsates every 1 sec.. different settings can make variables).. and all that (go into the main settings.. add all the alts names that will be included in this addon on "wow1" and the mains name on "wow2"'s addon..
Automaton= skips all the unnessisary things in quests, group invites, summons, deaths, trades, says ding! which is funn in guild!, and more auto thinggs like going into BG. and passing on
Pitbull- a new UI that allows u to put spells anywhere on the screen and bind them to keys.. So for example, if u want to bind 1, 2, 3, 4, to spells,, and cntl 1, cntrl 2, cntrl 3.. to buffs you can do that..!!

[Row199]

Hi Ogloo,
Thanks very much for your recommendations and set-up guide.
This looks very simple.
Does this program also move mouse clicks over? For instance, if I am working with two mages, and cast an AoE spell on my main wow1, will my main wow2 character cast an AoE spell in the same spot?

Thanks,
Rowan

P.S. Most importantly, this is fully legal according to Blizzard, right? I know it says so here, but a few other websites have said that Keyclone is "questionable"...

[Ogloo]

Keyclone does not fully support the mouse clicking thing.. Most of the time you really do not have to do this, but if you want to there are some programs that can do it, but I am not very familiar with, but there are some macros that set the view and mouse to center of the screen and then click.. thats how i did druids once.

[zanthor]

[quote='Row199',index.php?page=Thread&postID=211619 #post211619]Keyclone
Autohotkey
Mubox
Hotkeynet
Mousecloner
InputDirector
Octopus[/quote]

Keyclone - Highly utilized and easy to setup, cheap. - limited performance on Picture in Picture swapping (though improved over older versions) and limited functionality of mouse broadcasting. This used to get very frequent updates but they have slowed down a lot (Jun 2008 to May 2009 saw only 2 releases). Good author and community support.

Autohotkey - This is a very powerful tool which will require LOTS and LOTS of custom coding. It is free but support is limited.

Mubox - Never used it, haven't looked into it beyond seeing the website claims some pretty exaggerated things.

Hotkeynet - Another highly utilized tool thats free - very good community and author support. I can't say much about performance here as my experience is limited - it did work quite well for the testing I did.

Mousecloner - Banned from this site.

InputDirector - not a multiplexor last time I checked, this is a tool to connect multiple computers together much like Synergy.

Octopus - Another high utilization mod however the authors disappeared and it is what it is - you are stuck with community only support and no future for the software.

[url='http://www.lavishsoft.com']Innerspace[/url] and ISBoxer Toolkit were not listed. Innerspace by it's self is very powerful but hard to configure, when you add the ISBoxer Toolkit you have a quick and easy way to deploy your multiboxing team and configure them for any configuration you can dream of using (within the scope of what a multiboxer can accomplish.) I've personally configured my system using everything from Hardware, Keyclone, Autohotkey, Hotkeynet and Innerspace, and I can comfortably say the most power and configuration as well as author support has come from Innerspace and Lax. An IS subscription is $36 for 365 days, this covers 5 computers.

[zanthor]

100% legal.. most of the blizzard employies use keyclone and multibox.. Keyclone does not fully support the mouse clicking thing.. Most of the time you really do not have to do this, but if you want to there are some programs that can do it, but I am not very familiar with, but there are some macros that set the view and mouse to center of the screen and then click.. thats how i did druids once.

This is completely unsubstantiated. I know some GM's have mentioned they use it, but this is far from a provable statement.

[zanthor]

Hi Ogloo,
Thanks very much for your recommendations and set-up guide.
This looks very simple.
Does this program also move mouse clicks over? For instance, if I am working with two mages, and cast an AoE spell on my main wow1, will my main wow2 character cast an AoE spell in the same spot?

Thanks,
Rowan

P.S. Most importantly, this is fully legal according to Blizzard, right? I know it says so here, but a few other websites have said that Keyclone is "questionable"...

Keyclones mouse support is questionable in combat situations - if you are looking for a rock solid mouse broadcasting solution i'd highly recommend Innerspace. Note: for ANY mouse broadcasting you are dealing with some woojii magic of setting cameras facing the same way and hoping that the clicks line up in the 3d world.

Blizzard has been quoted from a forum blue name that KeyClone is OK to use. Keep this in context it was a VERY early version of KeyClone - back when it ONLY did keyboard/mouse broadcasting, and did not have any of the higher functions it does today (such as KeyMaps, PIP, etc.) Blizzard has gone to great lengths since then to ensure they do not endorse ANY 3rd party solution to multiboxing including pure-hardware based solutions. What they have done is stated time and again that if you stick to the 1 action = 1 action per client you are 100% OK in their eyes.

[Eldi]

theres a new one to pwnboxer like keyclone more userfriendly but i use keyclone and mousecloner

[zanthor]

pwnboxer and mousecloner are the same company and both are banned from being discussed here.