[How-to] 5x Paladins Disscusion

[Stealthy]

I use interact with target, I just forget that it works from a long range. Thanks for reminding me, fear bombs in WG were really annoying. Oh and I dont have a problem with trash hitting my rets, so I'll forgo the glyph. I did finish VH for my first heroic completion on my rets yesterday, but I got cocky this morning and didnt do my Divine Sacrifice/Divine Shield rotation and wiped. Sigh.

Oh and SoC on my tank was an accident when I did his talents a long time ago, I just never went back to fix it lol. Maybe tonight I'll take care of that. Oh and the second ring you linked for buyable says BoP on the tooltip

Yeah don't know what I was thinking when I linked that second ring...what I should have linked was this - www.wowhead.com/?item=Titanium Impact Band. Also there is a blue BoE ring that gives better DPS that many epic rings when gemmed with an epic +str gem - www.wowhead.com/?item=Ring of Scarlet Shadows.

Cheers,
S.

[Stealthy]

I am having fun with my paladins. I started with TDog's set up. Later I copied Stealthy's macro for /click and saw a nice dps increase. (could have been gear upgrades that were happening at the same time, or just the stopcasting/excorsism part, I'm not sure) My gear is still pretty crappy so there are only a couple of heroics I can clear.

PS. Stealthy I am Horde in the Ruin BG as well, we may meet in a battleground.

Lördnecte
Lördthelryn
Lördantheol
Lörddelaniel
Lördithanas

Good to see another Pally boxer on Ruin!

If you're looking for a gear planner, have a look at a program called Rawr (http://www.codeplex.com/Rawr) - its a great tool for comparing gear for either your tank or ret pally, and seeing the potential tanking or dps upgrade, and lets you filter the gear suggestions by source (Heroics, Emblems, PvP, Raids, etc) - i.e. you can get it to display the best tanking gear from Heroics and Emblems only...very handy.

Cheers,
S.

[Multibocks]

So I pretty much clear the first three bosses in Gundrak, the first boss in DTK, and all of VH. Is there another boss you have found easy to put down Stealthy? I tried Krystallus in HoS and I need to stop jamba follow before that one or he one shots my group during the shatter phase. Other than that I havent tried anything else. Oh and I refuse to do UK. I have probably cleared that dungeon 200 times and I am sick to death of the place.

[Stealthy]

So I pretty much clear the first three bosses in Gundrak, the first boss in DTK, and all of VH. Is there another boss you have found easy to put down Stealthy? I tried Krystallus in HoS and I need to stop jamba follow before that one or he one shots my group during the shatter phase. Other than that I havent tried anything else. Oh and I refuse to do UK. I have probably cleared that dungeon 200 times and I am sick to death of the place.

CoS is pretty easy, just don't worry about the timed run until your rets get geared. All the bosses are pretty much tank n spank. For the last boss, you'll just need to position your rets so that they attack Mal'ganis from behind to avoid the Carrion Swarm (frontal AoE).

The rest of DTK shouldnt be too bad...
For the 2nd boss in DTK (Novos), the easy way to do it is to position your guys up against the wall opposite the stairs - you will get mininal adds that way. Once you've killed the 4 shield wardens, refresh sacred shield and run in and engage the boss (make sure you have frost resistance aura up). When Novos starts to cast blizzard have everyone (including the tank) cast FoL on themselves - the heal from FoL and the subsuqent HoT from Sacred Shield should be enough to counter the blizzard. Other than that, its a tank n' spank. Note - Novos drops the best non-epic DPS plate for rets www.wowhead.com/?item=Breastplate of Undeath.
King Dred is optional, but if want to kill him I've found tanking him half way up the stairs reduces the chance of getting adds during the fight. It also reduces the chance your alts will be feared to some place they can't get back from when you press the 'interact with target' button. The tricky part is his Grevious Bite which puts a bleed effect on your tank that can't be dispelled, and will only go away when the tank is healed to full. You can divine shield out of it, or use Lay on Hands if you can't heal throught it.
The last boss is easy - sacred shield negates poison cloud, just spam 1,3 &4 keys (not 2 cuz thats the taunt key ).

Other than that, the first two bosses of H-AN are pretty easy. First boss is a tank n' spank, Consecration and Divine Storm take care of the swarm adds quite nicely. With the second boss, its a matter of attacking, cleansing the AoE poison, and moving out of the acid clouds (main with alts on follow is fine). There's very little trash in this instance so its an easy 2 emblems.

Hope this helps...

Cheers,
S.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

For Dred, you can pull the back 3 raptors out when Dred is on the far side of the tree if you hug the fence. Then you can tank him anywhere and not get an add, ever.

[Multibocks]

Actually I found The Nexus to be very easy. I thought Kerastrasza would kill my guys due to her having a frontal cone AE, but you can cleanse it. So... lots of cleansing in that fight and she tends to knock people away from her, but it's still a win in the end. I didnt even lose anyone fighting her. I'll have to try AN, I really dont care for DTK anymore either. My route for gearing shaman a long time ago was DTK, Gun, UK, UP and VH. Now I really can't stand to be in any of those instances anymore (especially if they have a lot of trash.)

[Multibocks]

Wow, CoS was easy! I did get to infinite corrupter at the 5 min mark. So a free mount to my first slave. Malganis turned out to be as easy as he is for my other groups. Love this instance =)

[Multibocks]

Today the daily was UK and finished it without even dodging the AE from ingvar. Very very easy instance.

[Multibocks]

I think Im going to give up playing these guys after i get their conquest loot all done. It's difficult to find PuG raids for better weapons and gear, I guess too many paladins on my server. My shaman have an easy time getting in PuG raids while my paladins get grilled about achievements and gear. Makes it really hard to get anything decent.

Plus one other thing I dont like and this is the killer: PVP sucks with the rets. Interact with target is nice, but lag makes them run in odd directions or run to the spot where they are no longer. Melee boxing is just not as nice as nuking from orbit. I can most times kill 3 people before a group rushing my shaman can get to them and seeing their comrades fall makes them backpedal. My rets just dont scare anyone, plus I have to get to people before I can start killing. It's kinda fun to wade into melee, but I really enjoy being a turrent that kills anything within 40 yards. PVP with rets just isnt fun.

[Fat Tire]

I think Im going to give up playing these guys after i get their conquest loot all done. It's difficult to find PuG raids for better weapons and gear, I guess too many paladins on my server. My shaman have an easy time getting in PuG raids while my paladins get grilled about achievements and gear. Makes it really hard to get anything decent.

Plus one other thing I dont like and this is the killer: PVP sucks with the rets. Interact with target is nice, but lag makes them run in odd directions or run to the spot where they are no longer. Melee boxing is just not as nice as nuking from orbit. I can most times kill 3 people before a group rushing my shaman can get to them and seeing their comrades fall makes them backpedal. My rets just dont scare anyone, plus I have to get to people before I can start killing. It's kinda fun to wade into melee, but I really enjoy being a turrent that kills anything within 40 yards. PVP with rets just isnt fun.

Pally for PvE, Dks for PvP. The ability to control the fight (DKs) makes them better for melee PvP