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[quote='Maxion',index.php?page=Thread&postID=211404 #post211404]Isn't it 535 DEF for heroics though?[/quote]

In theory - yes, you should only need 535.

I have found that in practice, I get ROFLStomped with anything less than 540 Def. Yes, I know the math behind it doesn't justify it, but I tried some heroics with less than 540 and got punked. I switch a trinket and got back up to 540, and it was a cake walk. (I had a holy trinket equipped by accident I think)[/quote]Yes, the time old QQ about "I ONLY NEED 535 DEFENSE FOR HEROICS", Ok, so maybe it isn't really a QQ, but what some people many NOT realize, is not only does defense make you uncrittable, it ALSO adds to avoidance.

From: [url]http://www.wowwiki.com/Defense[/url][quote] Each point of +Defense skill adds 0.04% to the chance to be [url='http://www.wowwiki.com/Miss
Missed[/url], to Block, to Dodge and to Parry for players. This means +25 Defense will grant you an extra 1% Miss, Parry, Dodge, and Block. The formula is constant across all classes
So 540 Defense is not a BAD thing at all. I see new tanks getting trashed hard. usually because they're defensive stats aren't up there yet because their gear is just getting them by, they don't have the high ilvl stuff with high avoidance. A fresh 80 may not even have 400 defense, check and make sure you do.