Dinged 80 yesterday, accounts closed today

[David]

Well my 4shamans and 1paladin dinged 80 yesterday. Had a lot of doing normal dungeons and it went quite easymode for me. Questing was a bitch but I got through.

So I ding 80, get craftables on my paladin http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...light&n=Shomey

I went to Heroic DTK and had 4 whipes on trollgore with best try on 34k HP left on him. I was not defence capped so I quit and farmed the trinket in HOL. Took 5 runs and it was good fun finding my own good way to kill the boss.

After that I went to HC UK and I got owned by the trash packs, they just smash me down.

Today HC gundrak, killed the 3th boss after like 8 tries and had 3 tries on the HC only boss but it seems that my dps lacks to much. The Colossus just owned my ass, no way I can outheal that. After 2 whipes (got him real low each time) I gave up. Went to COT and again my tank gets owned by the trash.

Seems like my paladin is one big puchbag, he has 537DEF and 20.6k hp and most trashpacks take me down in like 3 or 4 seconds.

I could spec one shaman resto but if 4x lesser healing wave don`t keep him up would one healer do a better job.

The reason I started boxing again is that I got annoyed with single boxing. The game just got bored.
So I`m not interested in solo boxing endless HC`s to get like 25k HP and run PUG naxx.

For me enough reason to quit. And I have a feeling the extra 5k HP those upgrades would bring would make a real difference.

So I`m wondering how others got up against this wall. Those with freshly dinged tanks, not those who had geared :-)

[Jubber]

Trust me we all hit this wall at some point. Get his gear enchanted. Gear out your tank. The 2 most important items in the team are the tank and healer. If you gear out your tank it gets way easier. Once your dps gets better gear upgrades then the round robin lesser healing waves from 4x elemental shaman will be better but until then its best to gear one of them resto.

Edit: as multiboxxers we can't just stroll into any old heroic after dinging 80 and wtfpwn. 5 separate players who do this will struggle so for us doing all 5 at once we need to be even more prepared by having some good gear. Not saying full Naxx25 gear is required for us.. but a little more than your average 80's lets just say.

[Enndo]

Well I bought every BOE epic tank piece I could for my pally, I also got a few naxx 10-25 tank pieces, im sitting at 26k unbuffed with 540 defense and I have no trouble tanking raids, havent gotten a team high enough to multi box heroics yet. You need at least 24k for heroics, you need a healer since your still gearing, having all of your dps stop dps to send off heals isnt going to get you anywhere. Switch one to heals, gear up more, when your sitting around 25k or bettere than try 4 dps.

[Ogloo]

Well it seems u kinda crafted items and just ran into the instances.. I think that you will need to build up ur gear more (not by just running around in alll the heroics), but by doing normal/heroic vault. Going to naxx, where there are other geared people so you can pick up some sick items.. Get some gold, and put the best enchants on ur items... For me, I run a mixture of pvp items quite a while. Do you have any interest in pvp? maybe just get some gear in there to fill the gaps of blues or w/e that you cant yet obtain in the heroics...

Thats my way I would do it..

[Ogloo]

O listen to Enndoh... That makes a ton of sense.. When im in pvp i have 4 shamans all elemental..

In normal BG. if I have 3 guys on me they dpsing the crap out of me right.. I throw a couple chain heals up.. But before I can get 1 or 2 chain lightnings off my health is so low I have to heal up again.. Essentially im doing no damage till one time i get stunned before I heal then dead.

[Svpernova09]

I'm a big believer in dedicated healers. They give you much more stability and longevity in fights. But you can't really expect to ding 80 and clear heroics. It's just not a reasonable expectation. 535 Defense and 20k HP is fine for regular runs, and starting out heroics. I think you may have been expecting a bit much too early.

Also, agility is not a primary stat for prot paladins. go for stam IMO. You have no real enchants except your boots. You can get 40 stam to gloves, stam to your sheild (iirc), Threat and parry rating to gloves, a kit with 30 stam on your pants. etc. If you're DPS is similar to your tank, it's defnetely a gear issue, spend time on getting gear and getting your DPS hitcapped, before banging your head against the wall of heroics.

[Enndo]

Doh sorry was gonna link my armory but i logged out in my holy gear and im at work ;( Im my guilds main pally healer for raids and off tank when ever I get the chance lol.

[David]

I`m a bit frustrated atm. Guess I set the bar to high. Maybe I should get those enchants first and maybe some pvp gear as well yea. It`s just that I seen people yelling you can run into Gundrak with greens. Guess thats with a geared tank.

Also, agility is not a primary stat for prot paladins.

I needed the color gem to get the Meta on my head :-) the other gems costed to much for the green belt.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...light&n=Shomea
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...light&n=Shomeu
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...light&n=Shomee
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...light&n=Shomei

Those are the shamans.

Guess I give it a try with a dedicated healer before I give up.

Btw how do you guys handle dedicated healers? Just run a healing macro with the same spam button that you use to tank and dps?

[Svpernova09]

Use this for your red gem:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40039
Champion's Monarch Topaz
+8 Strength and +8 Defense Rating

Or any other orange gem with a beneficial stat.


I have my healing keys bound to F7-F12. F3-F6 is bound to /target partymember /cast lesser healing wave macros. The main assist button that the 4 slaves spam, the healer uses /tar party1 instead of /assist party1. So I'm always on my tank unless I'm healing someone else.

[Fef]

It's not all about gear. It is a lot about practicing.
Some encounters seem trivial to me now, when they seemed just impossible on first tries.

My Paladin has 525 defense, 23.5k health. Nothing spectacular. I am not a good player, hyper casual, basically no experience of high level.
I nevertheless cleaned several heroics (Utgarde Keep, Culling of Stratholm, 3/5 Gundrak, 3/5 Drak'tharon). I just bought a shield formy Shamans for 35 Emblems of Heroism. Great feeling.

Trust me, practice the encounters. You will get some stupid repair bills for a while, but eventually, you will get better. It is you getting better that is going to make a difference quicker than your improving gear, actually.

And yes, a dedicated healer makes a huge difference. While you tank gets healed, 3 characters still DPS ...