Heroic difficulty order ?

[Moorea]

Hi, can someone confirm what are the easiest heroic to start with - I think from reading the stickies it would be

UTK
and
Gundrak

which one is easiest (for 4 shamans and 1 dk if that matters), next easiest and so on (progression) ?

[aboron]

The first 2 heroic bosses I downed were moorabi and sladran from gundrak - i've got a dk, 3 spriests and pally healer, so moorabi is actually the easiest one for me, i just let him go ahead and change, the pally can heal the tank all day and the aoe thing i just holy nova x3 and go back to burning.
Sladran was harder for me until i concentrated on gearing more dps, now i get him about 90% of the time.
Doing Eck was next, he's really simple if you just max range tank him (35+ yards) and he won't jump. I had to glyph mind flay to get him.

Next i went over and spanked the root shaper boss in nexus - just clump up right behind the tank on the steps and it's simple.

Also, while there, I go up and get the first boss in the oculus, the trash is harder IMO than the boss. just run up with the tank on this one too, ignore the bombs and just do a little aoe healing as needed (i made it the first try on just VE healing).

And last on my current list of starter bosses is prince from UK, just make sure to have the /target frost tomb part in your dps macro.

These are the ones i'm farming for badges right now, getting about 6/day until i can finish a complete heroic myself.

I get killed on the collosus in gundrak as soon as he transforms (i have no nature damage mitigation, and my priest holy nova healing works best when they are all clumpped up, which can't be done on this boss.

I almost have the twins in UK down, just need practice.

[Starbuck_Jones]

First Heroic I was able to complete was Utguard Keep. Second boss is harder than the last in my opinion. I had been holding back on trying Heroics till I got all decked out in craftables and some rep rewards, but I said frak it and just went and tried. First run through H:UK and I wiped only once on the second boss. Rest was a 1 shot. Other than being DEF capped my guys are not that geared. Like 1200spell power is all, no dedicated healer.

Now I just run my dailies, hit the AH for epic mats, and try a heroic or two.

[Multibocks]

Moorabi is definitely the easiest. I dont like suggesting UK because people tend to get stuck on the first boss and its not worth the effort to clear all that trash for just 2 bosses. My guess at difficulty would be this:

Gundrak
Draktheron
Utgarde Keep
Culling of Stratholme (if you arent racing clock I would call this the easiest instance.)
Violet Hold
and I never really ran the rest more than once. Most were awful to boxers.

[jimbobobb]

My personal recommendations for absolute beginners with little confidence:

Culling of Strathholme:
Ignore the clock completely and just slowly work through the instance. The bosses are all basically tank and spank with little twists. Heal whoever gets chained on the first boss, heal whoever gets blown up on the second, aoe heal a bit when the third boss berserks, and face the last boss away from the group/drop a grounding totem if you have one. Grats on an epic, decent loot, and a frozen orb.

Drak'theron keep:
First boss is just a tank and spank with a bit of a timer. Aoe heals really help. You can skip the second and even the third bosses if they give you any trouble. The final boss is the easiest final boss of all the heroics. Grats on an epic, decent loot, and a frozen orb.

Gundrak: You can do Moorabi and the Snake guy pretty easily, and they're only 3 pulls each before you can attempt them. If you have an aoe healer the golem/elemental is a joke. Finally the last guy is very easy. Just keep him at range when he's a troll, hug him when he's a rhino, and clump your guys in a corner.

These three instances are extremely easy. However once you figure out the little tricks for each heroic, they're all pretty easy. It's simply a matter of running them enough times and reading up on the boss fights that you figure out the easiest/best way to do it for you. There is a lot of absolutely great information in the stickies.

Once you're at the level where any heroic is no problem, you'll find that the two easiest to farm for badges/orbs/abyss crystals are violet hold and culling of strathholme. They're both more or less located in Dalaran, and you can do them both in less than an hour for 7 badges, 2 orbs, 2 abyss crystals, and a ton of other de/sellables.

[Moorea]

I got morabi and eck and the snake guy in Gundrak (yeah ! my first badges "solo") but after that it went downhill and maybe I was tired or what but I kept wiping on collosus (bad pull; was trying to position my guys and 1 aggroed unexpectedly) and then even on trash ... about 350g of repairs later I gave up and went back to AV and WG and dailies... I'll try to get some more gear (or stick to those 3 bosses)

In COS last time I tried I wiped on trash after the waves, up in the inn, when mobs spawn fast... but I was worsed geared maybe I'll try again

[KvdM]

I'd advice that you try all heroics. Even the ones that are listed as difficult. You might not be able to clear them, but you'll still be able to beat some of the bosses and get some good gear upgrades and badges from them. For instance, you could try to kill the first two bosses in UP after you've cleared UK. It only takes about 20 minutes to kill them and since you're in the area anyway...


Just noticed something... slap some sta armor patches on your gear to get 1-2k hp extra..
18k = dead tank
20k = no room for mistakes
24k = it's going to be a rough ride

And if necessary put them on your other chars as well, it will make aoe heavy encounters like the colossus a bit easier.

[Greythan]

I can't speak to all heroics, but my belief is that they are ALL about refining technique.

So, I'd recommend Gundrak as the one to focus on initially. Once I perfected my technique, I could farm five badges in under 2 hours. (Probably faster, but I'm being a big cautious.) There are a ton of upgrades in Gundrak for my mixed team. I then went on to UK and find that a pretty easy dungeon now too. However, there's a ton more trash to clear in UK than Gundrak.

I need to expand to VH and CoS. My few tries at CoS I was able to get the first two bosses easily. However, getting past the dragonkin in the first building was killing me. Need to try it again as I've gotten some gear upgrades.

So, farm Gundrak for five badges per day, upgrade gear, and expand to other Heroics. My two coppers.

[Raskaz]

I personally find Gundrak and DTK quite good for getting into heroics since they allow you to skip certain bosses.
The first two bosses in UP are quite easy as well and the first one drops some really nice caster DPS pants.
Same goes for HoL, the first two bosses are not that hard, Ionar however can be really annoying.
CoS is all about being patient and just completely ignore the timer.
And ofc good all UK, if you manage to beat the first boss the rest isn't really that bad.

[Tdog]

You know it also depends on your group makeup