So basically multiboxing in 5s is basically a joke now

[Clovis]

Sorry, I've been away for the past few days and neglected this thread. Someone asked me why I hold arena is such regard -- the answer is simple -- arena is required to gain the top end pvp gear.

I was doing BGs heavily with a priest healer and enjoying the set up quite a bit -- then 3.1 came out with the furious gear and furious weapons, however I wasn't able to upgrade my gear since buying even deadly gear requires a relatively high arena rating.

So a team of hateful and deadly gladiator (from drops or the winters grasp equivalent gear) is constantly up against teams with a ton of furious or T8.5 weapons. Arenas are so unballanced that Blizzard's unyielding position on them makes it incredibly frustrating because you simply can't get the gear by doing battlegrounds.

My current arena team is my 2nd one -- the original one, "The Queue" had around 50 games or so.

Since Blizzard is essentially eliminating 2v2 in this patch, that might force more people to play 5s, but today for example, we made a 5s team (my 2 partners in 3v3 and 2 others) and we got the SAME team 10 times in a row. This team was 600 points higher on the match making (1800 versus 1200) because no other teams queued -- this went on for an hour. 3s on the other hand have near instant queues and a variety of teams, all though with the changes in points that recently went live its been frustrated -- we actually dropped from 1720ish to 1580 today -- We were going up against 2000+ rated teams and losing 15-19 points per loss, yet gaining 4-5 points per win -- after losing 150 points, we just stopped for the night. It's incredibly frustrating to lose 15 points against a team, queue against them again and only gain back 7 points for winning -- the current arena system allows you to play 5 games, win 4 of them and gain nothing.

Oh, there is something I forgot though -- to get furious gear, you can run vault 25 once a week, all though in my experience (8 vault runs over the past 4 weeks -- I run 2 shamans at a time) there have been zero shaman drops -- absolutely nothing for pvp or pve, love it.

[Dominian]

Sorry, I've been away for the past few days and neglected this thread. Someone asked me why I hold arena is such regard -- the answer is simple -- arena is required to gain the top end pvp gear.

I was doing BGs heavily with a priest healer and enjoying the set up quite a bit -- then 3.1 came out with the furious gear and furious weapons, however I wasn't able to upgrade my gear since buying even deadly gear requires a relatively high arena rating.

So a team of hateful and deadly gladiator (from drops or the winters grasp equivalent gear) is constantly up against teams with a ton of furious or T8.5 weapons. Arenas are so unballanced that Blizzard's unyielding position on them makes it incredibly frustrating because you simply can't get the gear by doing battlegrounds.

My current arena team is my 2nd one -- the original one, "The Queue" had around 50 games or so.

Since Blizzard is essentially eliminating 2v2 in this patch, that might force more people to play 5s, but today for example, we made a 5s team (my 2 partners in 3v3 and 2 others) and we got the SAME team 10 times in a row. This team was 600 points higher on the match making (1800 versus 1200) because no other teams queued -- this went on for an hour. 3s on the other hand have near instant queues and a variety of teams, all though with the changes in points that recently went live its been frustrated -- we actually dropped from 1720ish to 1580 today -- We were going up against 2000+ rated teams and losing 15-19 points per loss, yet gaining 4-5 points per win -- after losing 150 points, we just stopped for the night. It's incredibly frustrating to lose 15 points against a team, queue against them again and only gain back 7 points for winning -- the current arena system allows you to play 5 games, win 4 of them and gain nothing.

Oh, there is something I forgot though -- to get furious gear, you can run vault 25 once a week, all though in my experience (8 vault runs over the past 4 weeks -- I run 2 shamans at a time) there have been zero shaman drops -- absolutely nothing for pvp or pve, love it.

Play on saturday/sunday/monday and thuesday and if you only face one team then your BG fails and you should consider moving.

Atm i facing mostly teams who have 2200 in matchmaking value while im floating around 1850-1900 and i lose 0 rating while they gain 2-3 points..

If you lose 15 points against and team only gain 7 points when winning, you should win vs them sooo..

Either you faced a setup who counters you, but counters nothing else, aka they lose against every team they face apart from you. Or you played to few matches to have a matchmaking valvue in order. (from the way you describe it, your team is not good enough to compete that high)

Sorry but you qq like a little girl after playing 24 matches with a quad team that lacks spec,enchants,jewels and general upgrades. Not to mention a healer who is prot/ret?? You talk about gaining the top pvp gear but your not willing to do anything to improve your current gear to get that..

Are you expecting a faceroll to 2500 rating?

[heyaz]

Sorry, I've been away for the past few days and neglected this thread. Someone asked me why I hold arena is such regard -- the answer is simple -- arena is required to gain the top end pvp gear.

I was doing BGs heavily with a priest healer and enjoying the set up quite a bit -- then 3.1 came out with the furious gear and furious weapons, however I wasn't able to upgrade my gear since buying even deadly gear requires a relatively high arena rating.

So a team of hateful and deadly gladiator (from drops or the winters grasp equivalent gear) is constantly up against teams with a ton of furious or T8.5 weapons. Arenas are so unballanced that Blizzard's unyielding position on them makes it incredibly frustrating because you simply can't get the gear by doing battlegrounds.

My current arena team is my 2nd one -- the original one, "The Queue" had around 50 games or so.

Since Blizzard is essentially eliminating 2v2 in this patch, that might force more people to play 5s, but today for example, we made a 5s team (my 2 partners in 3v3 and 2 others) and we got the SAME team 10 times in a row. This team was 600 points higher on the match making (1800 versus 1200) because no other teams queued -- this went on for an hour. 3s on the other hand have near instant queues and a variety of teams, all though with the changes in points that recently went live its been frustrated -- we actually dropped from 1720ish to 1580 today -- We were going up against 2000+ rated teams and losing 15-19 points per loss, yet gaining 4-5 points per win -- after losing 150 points, we just stopped for the night. It's incredibly frustrating to lose 15 points against a team, queue against them again and only gain back 7 points for winning -- the current arena system allows you to play 5 games, win 4 of them and gain nothing.

Oh, there is something I forgot though -- to get furious gear, you can run vault 25 once a week, all though in my experience (8 vault runs over the past 4 weeks -- I run 2 shamans at a time) there have been zero shaman drops -- absolutely nothing for pvp or pve, love it.

Vault was nice, but I didn't start running it on each shaman until probably 5 weeks before the patch. I ended up with 2 deadly chests, 2 hateful gloves, and some random elemental and enhancement pve pieces. Once the patch came out everyone will armory you because of emalon and if you're not in full naxx you don't get invite. I guess I could probably do 2.7-3k dps in my pvp + a few pve pieces I have but I gave up on it anyway