So basically multiboxing in 5s is basically a joke now

[Eloxy]

amen

[pinotnoir]

I understand the OP comments. Real life is becoming more important to me than Wow. With that said I dont have the time to bang my head against the wall trying to beat these faceroll aoe teams. There is nothing left to do in the game because I have no time to raid. My accounts will most likely be canceled this week because I am bored with the game. I really would like to have geared up my dk's in hateful but I dont have the time. Maybe after a break things will seem fresh and exciting again.

[Fat Tire]

hmmm... are you Ele? if so then each time that warrior comes in you can just send him back with TS.

Warriors are immune to the knock back in TS during their whirlwind BS.

However, it does not stop you from blowing them up. You could set focus the warrior an be rdy to blow him up. He cant switch to defensive/spell reflect while in Blade storm.


If they are using the tactic of FoK then sending in the warrior to BS. You could Ghost wolf it out a bit, they can control where they twirl but its a very short range. I know on my warlock when I see a warrior BSing I am like o shit! I port or I die, plain and simple.

Try to get an understanding about the different team comps and what they do, who they train/switch. It seems that they have a plan for you....FoK/BS. Do you have the correct plan for them?

Also, dude you played 16 games and went 6-10 I mean damn! Spend a little more time on it, you might surprise yourself. :thumbup:

Edit: I believe the old days BC days will come back in time. They are changing thing at a breakneck pace now and I see more balance coming and shaman changes.

[mrmcgee21]

Any warrior who doesn't ride the short bus has /cancelaura bladestorm in his shield reflect macro, you can reflect out of a bladestorm very easily. Anyone with a non-fail reaction time is going to see your burst coming, weather EM is up or not because there is a .5 sec delay after you flame shock before you can get it out. The overall skill of people in pvp in general has deffinately rose a lot since BC. It's amazing how many people can make that .5 sec reaction before I hit them with EM-LvB and counter me nowadays. And if EM isn't up? forget about it, most caster's camp at a pillar and run behind it right after they get flame shocked, while melee have gotten exceedingly good at turning figure 8's around my shamans so they break my casting quiet often. The trick is, waiting until one of them makes a mistake, or just finding the weakest link on the team ( you know, the idiot mage who comes out and blizzards you, the disc priest that mass dispells 1 to many times in a row, the resto druid who thinks he can sit in tree form 15 yards away from any LoS and spam heals ... those guys ) and exploiting it.



Just a little tip as well, run some 3v3's with your shamans before you do 5's ( with no healer ) to warm up, this will make you *SO* much better, learning to play without a healer teach's y ou how to use your defensive ability's properly, how to heal quickly, and how to make sure every ounce of dps you put out counts ( because you dont have that much mana hehe ). Anyone wanting to get over 1800 should aim to have a 1500+ 3v3' team solo before you give your healers a headache and waste their time getting mopped up by any team with a brain.

[Fat Tire]

Sound advice mrmcgee21


Thank you sir

[Clovis]

Thanks for the words of encouragement. My current 5s team is my second one -- the first night we went 6 wins for 5 loses but have lost every game since that due to the same two teams.

I currently do 3s solo with my main shaman as resto and I have a lot of fun with that but in fives I just want to bang my head against the wall -- casters duck in and out of LOS and the melee just run figure 8s into my group, breaking the spell cast of lava burst and it seems like the majority of teams I go against are cleave teams and are 500-600 points higher then me on the match making (1200 match making verus 1850... come on).

I canceled my accounts last night but the sub is good for another two weeks so who knows -- part of it is I need a better partner -- it seems like whenever I find one, they get frustrated at losing most of the time too and bail.

[Gares]

I'm currently gearing my shammies up with a pally who has shit gear too. He's a former Glad Rogue and Glad Lock, but if you can find someone to stick it out it'll be worth it.

[Moorea]

just for perspective I'm 20 loss 0 wins with my fresh team, and not expecting much more (I don't have gear; got the first piece from the first week and will get 1 more tuesday and maybe also a 3rd piece from honor pts) - I get owned so fast it's almost funny :-)

Oh btw, 0 win and also 0 kill - in 20 matches I didn't kill a single opponent - that will be my first milestone, try to kill 1 ! (small goals/baby steps)

[Gares]

LOL. I think in my first week with my alliance team (Last week) I killed 3 people, 2 of which were still mounted. I almost won one match too!! haha

[Clovis]

Right now playing a shaman in general feels like playing the underdog -- so much of our ability to win depends on the other guy fucking up basically.

Ghostcrawler posted the response to the "shaman Q&A" on the wow shaman forum and the basic tone was aside from bumping up our health, maybe, that they were aware of our weekness and are content to leave it alone.

Actually, the response to why our health pools is so low compared to the other classes (21k HP with deadly when other classes have 25k in the same gear) "we nerfed it at some point back in vanilla wow, but we forgot why so we'll look at reversing that at some point" -- 3.2 is what people are expecting as for a time frame, but that's still best case 3 months out.