So basically multiboxing in 5s is basically a joke now

[Clovis]

I did 6 matches tonight, each against two teams -- our 1300 rated team kept getting the same 1850+ rated teams each time and each time with the same results -- it just takes a cleave / aoe team to run in and kill me and this is with each of my guys have 22k hp and full deadly gear with a few hateful peices left over.

Everyone knows this, which is why 5s brackets are non exsistant hence the reason for getting teams rated over 500 points higher, they're the only other team queueing and its a long queue to boot. For my 3s team (currently 1650 and rising but I'm playing solo resto) the queues are less then 5 seconds.

It's incredibly irriating to see months of hard work leveling multiple shamans from 1 to 80, running countless BGs to get geared, running countless pugs for more gear, all for it to count for shit in the one area where it counts for me.

For the one or two people that are somehow getting to 2k ratings, my hats off to you and I'd know to know what you're doing because every team I face has one of two things -- a warrior charges in with reflection and then whirlwinds everyone, then the rest of the AOE starts -- or the hunter runs in with deflection popped followed again by the AOE -strategy is out the window, it's purely about who can output the most AOE damage.

5s has been such a disappoint that I'm canceling my subscription on all the clones and going back to playing just 1 -- it was fun, but ultimately it was a huge waste of time and cash because in Blizzard's attempt to make everyone happy, they've given every class the same abilities and way, way over complicated pvp. It's obvious they are utterly clueless about pvp and they only had it right before the first expansion.

-Clov

[Dzonatan]

hmmm... are you Ele? if so then each time that warrior comes in you can just send him back with TS.

[Mokoi]

Let me get this straight. You spent "months" getting to 80, spend a bunch of time getting your almost full deadly set and still do not understand how PvP works? and then decide to quit after "x" losses in the arena? your "area" where it counts?

You seem to have your priorities screwed up. If you suck at arenas why are they your "area" why not BGs? or raiding?

Not everyone here has the goal of being 2k rated in "arenas" a very small and unbalanced part of the game.. so why are you holding it up so high?? If you want to be good in arenas, please play them for a long time. I guarantee that hardly any teams hit 2k their first week/month of arenas. What exactly did you expect? full deadly gear in a furious arena and pwn face? If you expected to roll over every team, that is your malfunction not arenas or multiboxing.

You got the same 2 teams 3 times in a row each, did you do the SAME thing every time? did you spread your guys out? did you heal your face off during the aoe? are you taking a healer or 5 shamans? If you stood there 6x in a row and let them AOE you, then you deserve your rating.

Someone once said, the definition of crazy should be "repeating an action the same way over and over and expecting differing results"

Results take effort not imagination.

[Clovis]

hmmm... are you Ele? if so then each time that warrior comes in you can just send him back with TS.

Warriors are immune to the knock back in TS during their whirlwind BS.

[Dzonatan]

hmmm... are you Ele? if so then each time that warrior comes in you can just send him back with TS.

Warriors are immune to the knock back in TS during their whirlwind BS.

hmmm... Frost Shock him before he starts it then?

[MiRai]

[quote='Dzonatan',index.php?page=Thread&postID=2084 81#post208481]hmmm... Frost Shock him before he starts it then? [/quote]Nothing can stop you when you [url='http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=63784']Bladestorm[/url] and your and I'm almost 100% positive that you instantly break out of any slowing effects when you use it.

[Maxion]

I think it does not break slows.
But anyway, as he said the warrior has spellreflect on while running in, so a thunderstorm would get reflected (it is aoe, but they somehow still reflect it).

[Chranny]

I think it does not break slows.
But anyway, as he said the warrior has spellreflect on while running in, so a thunderstorm would get reflected (it is aoe, but they somehow still reflect it).

It breaks snares and roots.

@OP
You rolled a whole team without knowing what 5s is like?

[Eloxy]

To the OP

You cant just go in and to 10 games and start bbqing every team u meet period. For example, look at Sina, he did HUNDREDS of games just this season and god knows how many games before. (respect man )
I am atm in the same boat as you, just got the "startpackage" of gear to go into arenas. I did my first few matches a few days ago and wnded up with 8 losses and 2 winns. Not bad imo.
Not to crush your dream m8, but u gotta kinda fail a few months before starting to sniff at 1700 rating+


quadboxing shamans are not weak, its just that we gotta nuke the right peeps down and we gotta do it realy fast, dps and instagibbing is our strength, defence is not


on a sidenote, im not pro i do stupid shit and get facerolled with three enemies sometimes =P

[asonimie]

@OP: 5s is extremely hard, I am one of the 5 boxed teams above 1800 and I admit freely its a zerg fest with cleave teams. All it takes is Warrior+Rogue, Warrior+Lock, or Warrior+Ret to make life miserable (nerf warrior hp much?). If you're rolling around in full deadly gear, then your gear is fine!! You have done all the work and spent those long hours gearing up, now it just comes down to PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE... if you are this far along I suggest giving it more time, quitting now... especially with being newer to 5s... is just stupid. I have been working on boxed 5v5 since season3 of BC.... it takes TIME to get the hang of it. Quitting hastily like this will leave you bitter for a long time. Sticking it out and seeing the fruits of your practice will make you much more satisfied.

As far as strategies against the ominous warrior... Dominion, Sinaa, Myself and others have posted a lot about strats and secrets related to cleave comps over the last 30 days or so, dig up our threads and most importantly, do some thinking before you Q. Theorycraft, think through your gear. enchants, gems etc. I posted a long blurp about the importance of high spellpower and LvB/Crit modifiers etc. If you dont have the power to kill people fast, stam and resil will not win for you... and you will lose against these teams, period.

@Mokoi: "deadly gear in a furious arena"... ummm hell ya deadly gear in a furious arena. Thats how the system works every season lol. Nobody is fully decked out in Furious sets quite yet... everyone started with deadly or below... making Deadly the BEST set pieces to have starting this season. However Clovis, you should have full furious accessories (rating dependant of course) as SOON as you qualify for them.

Frustrating, hell yes. I've wanted to punch through my walls at least once a week (I'm extremely competitive).
When you finally kill that 2200 rated cleave comp thats been owning your ass for hours... and take 25 points from them. It's all worth it.

Although pvp whiners claim we have it easy and get free gladiator titles... we don't. Its tougher than ever right now (considering season 5 was impossible). I'm here for any advice and general help I can give, as are other successful arena boxers. Dont expect results overnight.

I wish you luck, its a tough road... but its doable.