I tried holy for awhile, but switched to disc for running 5man's ... i'll never go back! Maybe it's just my play-style, but DISC is so much better than holy for me ...way more mana efficient (can't remember the last time I ran OOM), and penance is AMAZING!! I never once used my 51pt talent as holy, but am always using penance. Glyphed holy nova and the improved shield make DISC an amazing spec for my team. I can keep my tank up so much better - maybe that's just me.Originally Posted by 'Enndoh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=205922#post2 05922
I thought crushing blows were removed from the game for NPC's <4 levels above you. This is from http://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_blowCrushes are not crits, they're different. at 79, I *think* you need 525/530 defense, if someone knows, please correct me.
Critical Hit immunity for a level 80 player against a raid boss occurs at 540 Defense and requires a defense skill of 140 (689 +def rating) from gear to achieve. The defense cap for heroic dungeons is 535 Defense.
You can use these commands to check your critability:
http://www.wowwiki.com/DefenseCode:Raid Bosses: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(121.278*(5.6-(GetDodgeBlockParryChanceFromDefense())),1,0.5,0) Heroic Bosses: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(121.278*(5.4-(GetDodgeBlockParryChanceFromDefense())),1,0.5,0) Instance Bosses: /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(121.278*(5.2-(GetDodgeBlockParryChanceFromDefense())),1,0.5,0)Here's the log of what I was hit with :Important Notes: As of 3.0, crushing blows mechanism have been changed. Now only mobs four level higher than you can deal crushing blows. Therefore, uncrushability is irrelevant for raids.
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Thanks for the tip - I'm trying to figure out how to gear once I hit 80. There's too much info out there on what to do next ... i dont even have 60% flying on my toons (let alone cold-weather) but am using the free flying mounts from "honest max."I did check your armory, but the basic cobalt/saronite level 78 tanking set should get you to like 520 ish def. It wont cost you much either (less than 100g in mats total), Do a bit of research. buy the mats and tip someone to make it for you. Take a look at sbjones's link in my sig for what im wearing. All the big peices are these blue crafted items. Only my shield is epic. This should help.
Tempered Saronite and Daunting are the prefixes.
What do you think about taking the 1800+ gold on each of my toons and using it to buy epic crafted gear for my tank & healer so I can do heroics right away and THEN start going for money so I can get regular flying -> cold weather -> epic flying?
Mostly, I'm hoping someone can offer some advice on what I'm doing wrong with this instance ... is it a gear thing or am I simply "doing it wrong" ?
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