Anyone tried transferring money from Alliance -> Horde or Vice Versa on the same server?

[Gares]

I have a level 80 Horde team on my server and I have a near Level 80 team of Alliance on the same server. Anyone tried to use the Neutral auction house to transfer money between the factions? I want to do it but I really don't want to be flagged by blizzard. I guess I could always ask a GM as well.

[Taliesin]

This was the big trick in the past to transfer across factions. I don't think there's anything that would get you flagged for doing this. But I would warn you, Blizzard supposedly added a much higher "tax" on sales made on the neutral AH to make this less appealing to people. I have no idea what the cost will be, but the interface will probably tell you the AH fee when you prepare a sale to post.

People also used this to transfer items across factions as well, but you need to be careful because I've heard of one person that posted some twink gear on there to buy right away on the other faction, but someone else snagged it off the AH before he could.

[Enndo]

I'm not sure if its legal or not but I have done it. But, toon A posting item in neatrual AH can not be on same account as toon B trying to buy the item.

[Starbuck_Jones]

This is what the neutral auction house is for.

[zanthor]

The best way to transfer money is by transfering commodity items such as primals, herbs, etc... and reselling on the other side.

You sell to yourself on the neutral AH for 1 copper a stack but be ready and do 1 stack at a time, if you get ninja'd, stop til later.

[Enndo]

When i did it I posted something stupid i think it was like a grey lvl 2 sword for 500g lol. Than bought it with my ally toons, Bam my horde toon got 500g. I highly doubt anyone would ninja that.

[falsfire3401]

When i did it I posted something stupid i think it was like a grey lvl 2 sword for 500g lol. Than bought it with my ally toons, Bam my horde toon got 500g. I highly doubt anyone would ninja that.

That's fine except the goblins charge a 15% tax on all trades. The reason it was suggested to instead trade commodities across the neutral AH for 1c/stack was to avoid the 15% fee. If you transfer say stacks of 20 infinite dust from your rich team to the poor team at 1c/each, then you can resell them on the poor team's faction-specific AH at the real going rate.

[Taliesin]

When i did it I posted something stupid i think it was like a grey lvl 2 sword for 500g lol. Than bought it with my ally toons, Bam my horde toon got 500g. I highly doubt anyone would ninja that.

That is exactly what I thought Blizzard nerfed. We already know you wouldn't get exactly 500g after the AH cut (probably something like 490g at best on a faction AH?), but the neutral AH supposedly takes a much larger cut of any profits. I never use the neutral AH, so I can't provide any idea of what that cut % is.

EDIT: falsfire3401 ninja answered my concern about the AH fee above me. So at best you would have only 425g after a 500g trade.

[Enndo]

The last time i did that was way before lich king so i didnt know they had nerfed it.

[Caspian]

There are a couple of ways to do this - I have moved massive amounts of gold back and forth

#1 - Put something cheap up in the AH for a ton of money where you want the gold. Boar ribs for 2000g for example. Buy it on the other side.
Pros - You will get your gold after one hour, even if someone decides your Boar ribs are worth 2000g
Cons - Neutral AH takes a 15% cut. There were people banned and reinstated after 3.1 went live for moving raw gold. This was assumed to be some new automated anti gold selling/buying feature. It is also assumed to have been fixed or removed so nobody should get auto banned anymore.

#2 - Place an item of value up in the AH for 1c/1s/1g - cheap on the side you have the gold. Buy it on the side you need the gold and then sell it.
Pros - No Neutral AH cut.
Cons - Possible to get item sniped. Possible not to sell items, or take a loss greater the 15% (a loss of less then 15% is still a gain vs the AH cut). Access to all gold could take days. Time needed to sell items.



I personally use option #2 all the time. I have never moved raw gold, I am too cheap to pay 15%. so when I said I moved massive amounts of gold it was all tied up in items. I am not worried about the bans, they were a mistake that was corrected. What I do is farm certain things while my main raids that are very valuable to the opposite faction or sell better on one faction vs the other. Transfer them and then sell them in the AH or via /2. If I want the gold back I buy something or things and transfer it back. Often you can buy things one side and sell them higher on the other and actually make money. Commodity items are great for this - gems, herbs, ore/bars, glyphs. After 3.1 my scribe got a Glyph book. Unfortunately it looks like 3 other people got that one too so my side the glyph was selling for 25g. Alliance side it was selling for 200g. I moved 5 across and sold them for a total of about 700g. I bought 6 other glyphs for about 500G and moved them back across and sold them for over 800G.

One thing i have done is buy items that I needed and then moved them across. I wanted to make some Spellshock stuff. One side Dragon's Eyes were 250g each. The other side they were 90g each. I needed them on the 250g side. I farmed a couple of difficult to obtain items and move them across, sold them and bought the cheap Dragon's Eyes to move back. You can also work it the opposite way. If you want gear for your new alliance team craft it, or get mats on Horde side, and then transfer the items over.

I have only had one thing sniped ever and the person used a bot (actually a legal addon in an illegal way) to do it. It was well over a year ago too. Blizzard has cracked down, and the addon they likely used had the featured disabled. With two accounts up, buy side search term pre-entered and tested it takes less then 3 seconds to post and buy the auction. Someone needs to get VERY lucky to snipe something from me - or anyone else doing it this way. Or they cheated in which case you lose one thing and report them for botting and they lose their account. Of course I always check for items being transferred when I hit the neitral AH, especially if I see lower then normal toons hanging out there. I have manually sniped some items even recently - Some cut gems for 1s each and a stack of Titansteel for 1c. My guess is the person was trying to buy their own auction and found out the hard way they couldn't.


Blue post stating Neutral AH transfers are not against policy
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...eNo=4&sid=1#78

Post with Blue investigation and tracking with resolution regarding Neutral AH related bans on 3.1's release.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...389820&sid=1#7

Neutral AH trading can be fun and very profitable if thats your deal.

EDIT: Since it took so long to write mine a bunch of other people
posted. Nothing has been changed or nerfed recently. There was the ban
issue mentioned above but that is it. The goblins have always charged
15% and faction rating does not affect the rate you pay at any AH.