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  1. #11

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    I'm still working out my boomkin rotation as well, but the DPS is also hovering about 2.5-3K on bosses, shaman about 3.5K, and arcane mage 4K+ (all with heroism). The boomkin is about 300 spellpower behind though (he's the newest to the team), so he's at a disadvantage anyways. However, I suggest a look over at a Moonkin Raiding FAQ on the WOW official forums. Keep in mind that this is a raiding guide, but a lot of the theory should help out even in heroics.

    The main complication for boomkins is that a lot of damage comes down to proper management of Eclipse procs. When you proc on Wrath, you need to be casting nothing but Starfire until Eclipse has expired. If you proc on Starfire, you need to be casting nothing but Wrath until Eclipse has expired.

    Unfortunately, one cast sequence is not going to manage this properly. Ideally, we would like a rotation like: IS, MF, Wrath, Wrath..(until proc), then Starfire from then on until you refresh IS and MF (assuming you want to proc for the Starfire crit bonus over Wrath bonus damage).

    I don't have time to toy with it right now, but you could write the macro to apply the DOTs when you use one modifier, Wrath with another modifier (until proc), then Starfire as the standard cast. I'm not a fan of trying to micromanage the rotation, but that's where a large portion of the DPS is missing for most people. Also, I'm not sure what the internal proc cooldown is (if any) on Eclipse, which may have some impact on the rotation as well (i.e. can you proc Eclipse right away after the last one has elapsed?).

    Right now, I use something like: /castsequence reset=target/combat/15 Wrath, IS, MF, Wrath, Wrath, Wrath, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire, Starfire

    The first Wrath is to apply the Earth and Moon effect for the damage boost to everything else that follows (not to mention all other teammates), though I'm not sure this is ideal (I never spent the time with the target dummies on him yet). I cast in blocks of Wrath and Starfire in hopes to try to put any Eclipse procs to the most efficient use without the micromanagement. I play the odds that the first wrath doesn't proc Eclipse, but if it does then I waste most of the proc time before even getting to the Starfires.

    I'm going to try to toy with this macro sometime this week.
    Duskwood - Alliance - PvE

  2. #12

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    running my team of moonkin, spriest, mage x3 I always had the best DPS/Luck on bosses doing the following:

    I would make 2 action bars on the druid and make them identical with the exception of my main spam spell. Bar 1 would have a starfire spam macro and bar 2 would have a wrath spam macro.
    Both bars had a button in the same location that performed a bar swap between the two. Whenever I saw the moon above my moonkin (or the symbol on pitbull on my mains screen) I would do a quick bar swap and continue spamming.
    This worked great until you got enough haste to ditch wrath but I did over 4k dps which still fell short of my arcane mages who did 6k+ in heroic gear.

    Just food for thought on the micromanagement.

    Edit: spelling

  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'genocyde',index.php?page=Thread&postID=203221#pos t203221
    running my team of moonkin, spriest, mage x3 I always had the best DPS/Luck on bosses doing the following:

    I would make 2 action bars on the druid and make them identical with the exception of my main spam spell. Bar 1 would have a starfire spam macro and bar 2 would have a wrath spam macro.
    Both bars had a button in the same location that performed a bar swap between the two. Whenever I saw the moon above my moonkin (or the symbol on pitbull on my mains screen) I would do a quick bar swap and continue spamming.
    This worked great until you got enough haste to ditch wrath but I did over 4k dps which still fell short of my arcane mages who did 6k+ in heroic gear.

    Just food for thought on the micromanagement.

    Edit: spelling
    What were you using to hit 6k with your mage?

    EDIT: also, what did you do with your Spriest? mine BLOWS!

  4. #14

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    So after going over the ideas in this thread, this is what I finally decided to go with:
    Code:
    /castsequence reset=target/combat Faerie Fire,null
    /castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire
    /use 13
    /use 14
    Significant dps improvement over my old macro (now looking back at it...what was I thinking??). Still far from ideal but it's simple enough and doesn't require any babysitting. I will gladly sacrifice some dps to avoid micromanagement.

  5. #15

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    Hmm, I find myself liking all your macros, Poetry. Tried this one out and damage was pretty solid... that is, as much as it can be without manually managing Eclipse procs, which I have no intention of doing either.

    Only tweak I really made to it was:

    Code:
    /castsequence [nochanneling] reset=target/combat Moonfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire,Insect Swarm,Wrath,Wrath,Wrath,Starfire,Starfire,Starfire
    You'll see I grouped the Wraths and Starfires together a little more, hoping that it is maybe a little more efficient on the Eclipse procs (testing is very inconclusive on whether this is even making any difference). The main change really is going a little heavier on Starfire for two reasons: I want the rotation to take a little longer to factor in Nature's Grace and Heroism, and I noticed that Moonfire can sometimes drop off before the 3rd Starfire can sneak in to extend it for that last 3s boost from Glyph of Starfire.

    Disclaimer: Testing done self-buffed only. +4.65% hit, +4% hit from talent, +3% hit from Imp Faerie Fire (i.e. total of +11.65% hit), on a 80 heroic dummy. 1728 spellpower in moonkin form, about half blue and half purple gear. DPS is consistently around 2200 DPS, spikes upwards of 2500 DPS.
    Duskwood - Alliance - PvE

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