Gearing at 80 - Heroics as a multiboxed team - Worth it?

[Ken]

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isn't it more effective to take 1 of your characters and simply PuG 6-9 of the Heroic dungeons (to get decently equipped) in one night? There's at least 1 upgrade in just about every heroic dungeon (not going to include badges here), and at this point in the game, odds are you will be the only uber needy character in your group. In theory (provided you gain at least 5 items in the night + enough badges to buy a shield :P ), wouldn't this make things easier to deal with for your multibox group?

Heroic PUGs are generally very slow, so you probably won't do 6 in one night(about 4 hours?). Just gathering 1 group for a heroic can take 30 minutes or longer. That's not counting the ones that fall apart before you get to the end boss.
My experience with heroic PUGs (with 1 character) is that average DPS is about 800-1200 and most tanks don't even know what "aggro" means or what happens when plate wearer's defense rating is below [s]520[/s] 535 in a heroic.
This can be solved by doing PUGs as tank or healer of course. Especially if you're a good healer, you can make a difference. Even with crap gear and especially with 'utility' healing classes like a priest or a druid.

For example, take a look at my non-Ulduar, "raid ready" (only 2,500 dps) character that I mentioned earlier: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ellowsh%C3%AEp

7 (6 drops, 1 badge) of her items she received in 1 day of running Heroics with random people. She also has some offspec enhancement naxx stuff. As you can see, most of those items come from the "harder" Heroics, that aren't going to be doable (without lots of dying) multiboxing, right away at 80. I guess that's why I feel it's more effective to take one character and gear it up. Please let me know your thoughts.

The key characters to running your own heroics effectively are your healer and your tank. Get those 2 geared (with PUGs and/or crafted gear) and you're set to go. DPS isn't very important if your healer and tank are well-geared.

[daviddoran]

I think that if you are pugging for fun, then go for it. If Pugging is just a chore so you can roll on gear, then don't do it. I enjoy pugging a bit, so having 5 toons available makes it more enjoyable. I got into a bad pug, got saved to the instance after one boss, and then the raid fell apart. If i only had one toon, i would have been out of the whole place for a week. All I had to do was switch toons and start over. Now my 3 mages are doing much better dps, my priest is pumping out much stronger heals, and my tank can take a few more hits.

It all goes down to one fact. This is a video game. It's supposed to be fun. Do what you enjoy, 5boxing heroics, solo box raiding, multi multibox raid, PvP, etc etc.

[Memn]

I think the best way to gear fresh L80 teams changes over time too. As PvP gear is added with each additional Arena season the value of just gearing by grinding honor increases. This is an upgrade path where you get even, consistent gain on all 5 toons at once. Its fun (for most of us) and it REALLY tests your macros and keybindings for improvement. I have worked on teams in heroics and had adequate macros and bindings for the heroics that were utter fail in PvP... but my PvP inspired configurations have usually been flexible and useful enough to work for heroics too...

If your new to 80... think about grinding the BGs for a bit....

[Knobley]

Hey guys,

I haven't read this entire thread in detail (sorry), but thought that I would mention that it's really easy to get some fairly decent gear from the tournament dailies. It takes a while, in terms of calendar days, to gather the tokens, but it's super easy to get some fairly good gear.

Knobley

[thedreameater]

From what I have experienced, getting a group together for a 10 or 25 man raid (namely Naxxramas, since thats where the majority of the loot at 80 comes from), is relatively simple. I've never logged on and not seen at least 5-10 different raids form during any given night.

You are lucky. You don't play on Ravenholdt US. We have a handful of huge guilds who have stolen all the healers and tanks. What's left is hungry dps. The guild I am in is a bunch of friends, we probably won't even clear Naxx and no one (but me) is willing to tank. Assholes, haha.

The main reason I started boxing was to butcher people in the open world. Tired of pricks camping fellow players - there are a lot of them on my server. As a group of shaman I tip the odds IMMEDIATELY. I thought I would enjoy jumping people, and its funny, but not something I'm into really. Excessive camping is for assholes and I like murdering them.

[jstanthr]

the zerg on magtheridon have several "moderatly" active boxers, i myself am in forsaken entities, which i am extremely active and another 10 boxer that is jst as active as me, there is another guy that recently transferred that seems to be pretty active as well, i would love for some of us to get together and make a "boxer" raid, i think it would be uber fun. if any of u guys wish to chat about it u can message me on here, of hop into my vent server iron.typefrag.com port 48069 pass:forsaken my name is jstanthrhntr in there, any of my guildys can tell u where i am or when i'll be back if im not online atm.