I farm just for the Hateful set.

I could see what was happening after the first few weeks of Arena.

IMHO the whole way PvP is played in groups is different now,in Arena and BG's.

When almost every class has the ability to effectively take on clusters of groups (see Multiboxers),as easily as targetting a solo player,(see fan of knives),with stuns poisons and interrupts you know its a deliberate kick in the nuts by BLizzard.

Its my opinion after playing nearly 6 months since WoTLK,that it was Blizzards intent to give pacify the QQ'ers and give them tools for breaking down Boxers effectiveness in PvP,certainly players have far less fear of boxing groups now.

I can't count the amount of times i'm idling and some nubcake dashes into my group spamming some AoE effect and dancing around like a clownshoe.

The knock on effect of this and many of the other changes Blizz have made WoW just doesn't feel much anything like the game I played prior to WoTLK,reminds me more of a Nintendo game ,which saddens me :wacko: