Big changes to Wintergrasp coming...

[Otlecs]

Someone in the WoW forums made the suggestion of making the weekly quest rewards offer 7 times as much, but be 7 times harder to achieve. E.g. kill 70 players, attack / defend 21 siege vehicles.etc.

Like all truly great ideas, this is blindingly obvious and elegantly simple.

I hope Blizz listens to that one.

[moji]

Like all truly great ideas, this is blindingly obvious and elegantly simple, and will be ignored. Instead, blizz will come up with a similar, more complex version for half the rewards, but take 5 times longer and require you to collect something.

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[Stealthy]

I just read on MMO-Champion that they are also nerfing the amount of honor gained from building destroyed / defended, and a victory / loss.

:thumbdown:

[Dominian]

Someone in the WoW forums made the suggestion of making the weekly quest rewards offer 7 times as much, but be 7 times harder to achieve. E.g. kill 70 players, attack / defend 21 siege vehicles.etc.

The hardcore players would be knocking them over as soon as they were up, whereas the more casual players would complete them slowly over the week...

To avoid the end-of-week rush, have the 7 day lockout timer start from when you accept the quest.

This seems like a good idea to me...

Cheers,
S

I cant see how it will release the pressure on WG even with a 7 day lockout timer.

Last thursday i managed to get 1/10 kills when we were attacking the WG fortress(since we win 99% due to sieg engines blinks around unstoppable due to the lag) We were 6 full raids before the portal to WG opened.. Alliance know that they lose when they defend aka most cba to go there and the alliance ends up with 15 tenacity. Ususaly having tenacity is a bad thing but we were just not able to get kills and ranks since they all were sitting on 60-80k hp and ususaly hiding in the fortresse. We capped all the workshops but they managed to steal our workshop once and build 3 sieg engines that took down all our towers.

defending 21 sieg engines would be easy to get done since you dont have to be in the same raid as thoose who drive them, changing it to the same with players would fix this problem.

The point must be to free the server load and make WG for thoose who thinks its fun and isnt there just for the free honor.

The best idea would be to increase the honor gained from bgs.

[Stealthy]

I cant see how it will release the pressure on WG even with a 7 day lockout timer.

Last thursday i managed to get 1/10 kills when we were attacking the WG fortress(since we win 99% due to sieg engines blinks around unstoppable due to the lag) We were 6 full raids before the portal to WG opened.. Alliance know that they lose when they defend aka most cba to go there and the alliance ends up with 15 tenacity. Ususaly having tenacity is a bad thing but we were just not able to get kills and ranks since they all were sitting on 60-80k hp and ususaly hiding in the fortresse. We capped all the workshops but they managed to steal our workshop once and build 3 sieg engines that took down all our towers.

defending 21 sieg engines would be easy to get done since you dont have to be in the same raid as thoose who drive them, changing it to the same with players would fix this problem.

The point must be to free the server load and make WG for thoose who thinks its fun and isnt there just for the free honor.

The best idea would be to increase the honor gained from bgs.

The kill quests can be completed from killing the NPC guards in between battles now (protip - killing NPC guards during the battle ranks you up as well!). But I agree - there should be more honor from other BG's - when WotLK was introduced, Blizz inflated the price of the pvp items, but the honor from BG's remained the same pretty much - making them much less attractive to people looking to gear up.

Cheers,
S.

[Dominian]

But yes i do understand people who play on normal populated servers or were WG runs smooth is fustrated by theese changes. On my server WG doesnt run smooth at all and crash the server, generaly its 20-30 mins were i run to the fortress and afk a while outside.

The way i ususaly get my alliance kills is to farm them at the ally camp in the east wich works aswell.

[Ellay]

If you have 50 players vs 50 players in WoW it doesn't lag, if you have the same amount in WG it doesn't lag. When vehicles starting destroying walls/etc, thats when it falls apart. I'm not a coder myself, just a viewer but I'd say they have some major memory leaks in how their destructable terrain works.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

If you have 50 players vs 50 players in WoW it doesn't lag, if you have the same amount in WG it doesn't lag. When vehicles starting destroying walls/etc, thats when it falls apart. I'm not a coder myself, just a viewer but I'd say they have some major memory leaks in how their destructable terrain works.

I code a bit as a hobby and I'll agree in principle. Not necessarily leaks but performance problems fo sho. Things like that (remember the corpse lag in SS/TM?) make me fondly remember DAoC relic raids. Sure, you might have gotten 5-10fps on the really big fights at the relic keeps but at least they COULD have a couple hundred people in a zone and still have it playable.

[Maxion]

I also had the idea of portals or Uldar style dialogue based teleporters at the GYs - or somewhere. To get to other places on the quickly, like your objective location.

You can already port around WG, just talk to the spirit rezzer while dead and it can port you to any other graveyard your faction controls.