Solidice.com / Keyclone issues resolved

[Ridere]

I think if this is the first time most have experienced trouble with Keyclone, then that's pretty good. I don't use it personally, but it does seem like a pretty solid piece of software.



That being said... Software key replication is a pretty important part to boxing. While I don't agree that you need to have a redundant server for validating keys, I think there should be a backup of some sort. Maybe have a heartbeat check in the program. Every hour, or two, it'll go out to check for the license. If it can't connect to the server, it won't return a "failure" of the check, but the hourly check will ensure that if you haven't paid for it, and the servers are running fine, you won't be able to use the software.



That would remove the frustration seen by legitimate customers, and limit "free" time to the so-called hackers to merely Down time + up to 1 hour of free Keyclone.



And like Blast3r and a few others mentioned. If people can write cracks to hack microsoft, adobe, and any other big piece of software, I highly doubt Keyclone is safe. So the inconvenience does tend to affect the paying, legitimate customers.



But I think my idea would actually prove to be rather useful.



I've been thinking about picking up Keyclone for awhile, but I still use hotkeynet for now. haha

[Nisch]

I highly doubt Keyclone is safe.

It's not safe at all. Getting past the repeated check is easy. I think it's ridiculous to have that cause all the paying customers to be without.

It doesn't affect my gameplay as I am hardware, but it does affect my wife would DID purchase Keyclone. That is why I found a way around that repeated authentication for her.

The fact is, if it's software, it is not safe. That's a fact you must face as a developer.

[keyclone]

if your problem is that the server went down and you should be able to continue... then the simple 'hack' would be to have windows block keyclone from getting to the internet. no internet == no server response == should play anyhow? lol.

leaving anything on the local machine wouldn't work, as that would just get copied to all other machines.

as for cracks... sure, you can get a crack... please do. and please, do some banking on your machine as well. i'm sure those pesky keyloggers won't other you.

oh.. and where are the complaints about the call-home in wow? it calls home constantly.

[Nisch]

I agree that one shouldn't trust others and their cracks. This is why I just do it myself.

As for the network blocking, that wouldn't work as your program would receive the "0,0,0"

An alternate would be to use pcap to intercept the web call (you could use LMHOSTS, but you use a direct IP addressing, leaving you down when that IP is down, and not able to reroute with DNS).

The other option is to just reroute the conditional at the time of the license check.

WoW does call home all the time, but it doesn't leave you without being able to play.

[Maxion]

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to play wow if wow was unable to contact the server.

[Moorea]

The point is that blizzard invested a tiny bit in redundancy of servers and you don't want to compound their downtime with keyclone's

[keyclone]

ok.. let's see. in the last 3 years, wow has been down for 8 hours every tuesday. that would be about 1200 hrs of downtime.

during the same 3 years, keyclone might have been down for 10 hours (i don't even think its that high). if anything, blizzard is crushing keyclone time (just kidding )

[Nisch]

ok.. let's see. in the last 3 years, wow has been down for 8 hours every tuesday. that would be about 1200 hrs of downtime.

during the same 3 years, keyclone might have been down for 10 hours (i don't even think its that high). if anything, blizzard is crushing keyclone time (just kidding )

That's scheduled downtime. Yours comes without warning and leaves people unable to multibox, which is the whole point of their gaming.

If your downtime just happaned to fall on WoW's.......this probably wouldn't be an issue.

[Moorea]

That's scheduled downtime. Yours comes without warning and leaves people unable to multibox, which is the whole point of their gaming.

If your downtime just happaned to fall on WoW's.......this probably wouldn't be an issue.

^ This and

I just don't agree that someone has bought a stand alone application that can't operate without the author first saying its ok to use it. Each.and.every.time.

^ This

[Svpernova09]

That's scheduled downtime. Yours comes without warning and leaves people unable to multibox, which is the whole point of their gaming.

If your downtime just happaned to fall on WoW's.......this probably wouldn't be an issue.

^ This and

I just don't agree that someone has bought a stand alone application that can't operate without the author first saying its ok to use it. Each.and.every.time.

^ This

Offer something intelligent to the discussion or don't even bother posting. QFT type posts are pointless and a waste of database space.

As for an application calling home? I don't mind because I'm a legitimate customer. I was affected by this last downtime, but I didn't mind because it's a solid product with solid support and I understand shit happens. If you don't understand that shit happens that is outside of 1 single person's control, then you've got far more to worry about than not being able to multibox. The original issue that caused this thread is long fixed and over, if you have ANY issues or concerns with Keyclone, please take them up in the Software section, or If you just want to QQ about it phoning home, please feel free to Contact the developer directly.

Thread closed,

Thanks.