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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'EaTCarbS',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200670#pos t200670
    Quote Originally Posted by 'whitechapel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200642# post200642
    People here obviously haven't read the rules. As soon as some GM gets on and starts going "RAWR YOU BE USIN' SOMEONE ELSE'S ACCOUNT!" reply with a simple "Yeah, I bought it."

    Perfectly legitimate. Buying and selling accounts is legal if all of the contents of the box are transferred to the new owner. Obviously, a new account cannot be made with the CD key so the account also becomes property of the new owner. It doesn't matter whose name the account is in, so long as you can prove you are in possession of the retail box and you pay your fees, there is nothing they can do.
    The following is quoted from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

    Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.

    Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of WoW Accounts or Blizzard Accounts (each an "Account"). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.
    You sir,
    Quote Originally Posted by 'whitechapel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200642# post200642
    obviously haven't read the rules.
    EDIT: Typos >.<
    Strange how they allow the purchase, trade or resale of the actual game itself but not the account. They still won't do anything about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200690#post20 0690
    there is nothing they can do
    The rest has been replied to already I just wanted to reply to this part

    Its blizzard, they can do what they like.

    They can ban you/delete your account/delete your friends accounts, hell they could prolly kick you in the face and get away with it :P
    No, Blizzard can't do what it pleases. It must abide by the rules of its own EULA and TOS or else it can face law suits from disgruntled customers or whatnot.

  2. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'whitechapel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200863# post200863
    Quote Originally Posted by 'EaTCarbS',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200670#pos t200670
    Quote Originally Posted by 'whitechapel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200642# post200642
    People here obviously haven't read the rules. As soon as some GM gets on and starts going "RAWR YOU BE USIN' SOMEONE ELSE'S ACCOUNT!" reply with a simple "Yeah, I bought it."

    Perfectly legitimate. Buying and selling accounts is legal if all of the contents of the box are transferred to the new owner. Obviously, a new account cannot be made with the CD key so the account also becomes property of the new owner. It doesn't matter whose name the account is in, so long as you can prove you are in possession of the retail box and you pay your fees, there is nothing they can do.
    The following is quoted from http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

    Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.

    Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of WoW Accounts or Blizzard Accounts (each an "Account"). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void. Blizzard owns, has licensed, or otherwise has rights to all of the content that appears in the Game. You agree that you have no right or title in or to any such content, including without limitation the virtual goods or currency appearing or originating in the Game, or any other attributes associated with the Account or stored on the Service. Blizzard does not recognize any purported transfers of virtual property executed outside of the Game, or the purported sale, gift or trade in the "real world" of anything that appears or originates in the Game. Accordingly, you may not sell in-game items or currency for "real" money, or exchange those items or currency for value outside of the Game.
    You sir,
    Quote Originally Posted by 'whitechapel',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200642# post200642
    obviously haven't read the rules.
    EDIT: Typos >.<
    Strange how they allow the purchase, trade or resale of the actual game itself but not the account. They still won't do anything about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Tasty',index.php?page=Thread&postID=200690#post20 0690
    there is nothing they can do
    The rest has been replied to already I just wanted to reply to this part

    Its blizzard, they can do what they like.

    They can ban you/delete your account/delete your friends accounts, hell they could prolly kick you in the face and get away with it :P
    No, Blizzard can't do what it pleases. It must abide by the rules of its own EULA and TOS or else it can face law suits from disgruntled customers or whatnot.
    Blizzard can, in fact, do as it pleases. No one is going to be able to successfully sue Blizzard over anything in game and win. They write the rules. The EULA and TOS are written by Blizzard and change at almost every update. If this isn't the case there would not be so many documented incidents of accounts being banned because of this issue. You might get away with it for a while but it is still something that Blizzard bans for.
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  3. #13

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    Blizzard can't do what it pleases. It must abide by the rules of its own EULA and TOS or else it can face law suits from disgruntled customers or whatnot.
    They've written up the EULA / TOS in such a way that they can pretty much do anything they want

    Strange how they allow the purchase, trade or resale of the actual game itself but not the account. They still won't do anything about it.
    They most certainly will - I've seen guildies stripped of purchased accounts while having their existing accounts also banned (same billing info I'd imagine).

  4. #14

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    Strange how they allow the purchase, trade or resale of the actual game itself but not the account. They still won't do anything about it.
    Yes, they will. The transfer of ownership you point to only points to the License Agreement for the right to access the "Game Client", IE the install disks which allow you access to create an account. The account and everything associated with it, including the key used to create the account, is property of Blizzard. They are 2 seperate things. Transferral of the game software, including all materials packaged with it allows you to make easy use of the Guest Pass Key, a seperate key used to make a seperate account.
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    Whitechapel, absolutely everything you have said in this thread is factually incorrect.

    I sincerely hope that future members of the community searching for information read the rest of the thread and realise that account sharing and account trading are against Blizzard's terms of use and will end up with a permanent ban on all accounts when discovered.

  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Otlecs',index.php?page=Thread&postID=201038#post2 01038
    Whitechapel, absolutely everything you have said in this thread is factually incorrect.

    I sincerely hope that future members of the community searching for information read the rest of the thread and realise that account sharing and account trading are against Blizzard's terms of use and will end up with a permanent ban on all accounts when discovered.
    Not all of it, just wrongly assumed that logic would prevail when allowing the sale of the discs would also mean the sale of an account. Licensing gone out of control.

  7. #17

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    Being given the correct information and then saying "they still won't do anything about it" is still encouraging people to violate the rules. Logic would also dictate that when it states in the ToU and EULA, as well as on these boards and the WoW boards, and even on some account selling sites that account trading and selling is against the rules and bannable, then it is against the rules and bannable. They will do something about it, and telling people to violate game rules on this forum is a violation of this site's rules.
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  8. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Khatovar',index.php?page=Thread&postID=201261#pos t201261
    Being given the correct information and then saying "they still won't do anything about it" is still encouraging people to violate the rules. Logic would also dictate that when it states in the ToU and EULA, as well as on these boards and the WoW boards, and even on some account selling sites that account trading and selling is against the rules and bannable, then it is against the rules and bannable. They will do something about it, and telling people to violate game rules on this forum is a violation of this site's rules.
    By saying "they won't do anything about it" I am simply saying it is quite unlikely Blizzard will actively pursue and track down multiple accounts registered in different names being used by the same person. It is more likely they will stumble across it when a multiboxer is reported for botting. I have been reported while using an account in my girlfriends name with no damage done to either of our accounts.

    If anyone chooses to follow any advice on these forums they do so at their own risk, I am not to be held accountable if someone decides to test Blizzard and they get banned, merely reporting on my own experiences. Let's all just stop beating a dead horse and get on with it.

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