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    Default The No Focus Manifesto v0.1

    [align=center]The No Focus Manifesto!!![/align]
    Disclaimer: I’m in no way attempting to take credit for the idea of non-focus failover. There are greater minds that have come before me and put this together. I’m attempting to consolidate some of these ideas and document how I believe I’ve successfully put them into use with using no focus in my gameplay to this point. Enjoy!

    What we’re trying to accomplish here is:

    1 Button follow with leadership failover built in
    1 Button synchronous firing recognizing leadership failover
    No use of focus (It can be used later for something even more fun!)

    The Standard Stuff:

    On your main:

    A "group invite" macro:
    /invite toon1name
    /invite toon2name
    /invite toon3name
    /invite toon4name
    /ffa

    Click this twice – first time to invite, accept invites, and then again to set loot to Free For All

    How to you accept on the remainder of your toons?

    /script AcceptGroup();
    /script AcceptQuest();
    /script AcceptTrade();
    /script RetrieveCorpse();
    /script RepopMe();
    /script AcceptBattlefieldPort(1, 1)

    DISCLAIMER: From experience, I do NOT use /script RetrieveCorpse(); and /script RepopMe(); on my slaves (shamans) – main reason is AV. Should you lose possession of an asset during the fight, you’ll end up with your guys rezzed up all over the place.

    This macro will accept the invite, it will also accept sharing quests, accept rezzes, accept releasing, accept trades, and accept battleground notifications.

    The MONSTER macro (AKA The Big Button):

    The first thing we’re going to need is a follow macro. We’re going to toss a lot of utility in this follow macro. It may not look like much but this is the main macro for making all this work.

    /target [target=Brain, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Toon2, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Toon3, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Toon4, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Brain, exists]
    /follow
    Translated?

    /target [target=Main guy if he's alive]; [target=#2 if he's alive]; [target=#3 if he's alive]; [target=#4 if he's alive]; [target=Main guy - YOUR ALL DEAD]
    /follow

    This does the following.

    Follows your main guy, handles your failover to a non dead toon when your main dies (all you need to do is click on the next alive toons window, click whatever button you have assigned to follow, and the macro does the rest). It also will permit follow BACK to your main guy if you’re entire team is dead. Why isn’t the 5th guy listed in there? Because if the first 4 are dead – What’s the point in targeting yourself?

    Casting Macros:

    You’re going to need to dmg stuff eventually – lets get down to how to do that without using focus.

    /cast [target=targettarget, harm] [] Lightning Bolt

    Remember that all your slaves have YOU targeted. What this does is “if your targets target is harmful, cast this spell on it” – it does NOT untarget your leader. You should be able to go through entire instances having your slaves never targeting a mob.

    If in the unlikely and unfortunate event your main dies, the [] modifier will permit the REMAINDER of the slaves to single target if necessary. Since there are no specified names involved, this is perfect for failover.

    Healing:

    Same setup as above, change 1 aspect:

    /cast [target=targettarget, help] [] Lesser Healing Wave

    [] permits your brain to single target, again facilitating failover.

    In Summary

    The functionality of these 4 macros with a little modification (add one for earth shock, frost shock, chain lightning) and you have:
    1. Group invite
    2. Accept
    3. Follow
    4. Assist and Pew Pew

    Lets explore the following scenario:

    Your Brain dies – “OH NO NOT THE BRAIN!!!” – You take control of slave #1, You click your follow macr, Slaves #2,3,4 target Slave #1 based on the way the big button macro is setup.
    You start to pew pew with slave #1. Based on the way the casting macros are setup – he is allowed to free fire. The rest of the slaves, targeting slave #1, fire on slave #1’s target (targettarget) without UNTARGETING slave #1.

    This might seem like a laborious process, but it’s rather fast.

    Brain dies
    Take control of slave #X
    Press your follow macro
    Continue killing.
    2 actions and your failover is complete.

    Extras:

    Heal+PewPew in 1!!

    /cast [harm] [target=targettarget, harm] Lightning Bolt; [target=targettarget, help] [] Lesser Healing Wave

    This is a great 2 in 1 macro – if your brain (whoever your brain may be) has a player targeted, they all heal the player – if the brain has no one targeted, they heal the brain – if they have an enemy targeted, pew pew pew

    Fast Rezzing!!

    Well gee darn – you wiped. The scenario is that the T5 tank or healer you brought along would really appreciate it if you rezzed him/her first. But wouldn’t it also be nice to be able to just bang a button and autorez your guys without fumbling through the pile of corpses?

    We need to have A: the ability to target and rez, and B: the ability to autotarget your team members and rez.

    /target [dead] [target=Team1, dead]; [target=Team2, dead]; [target=Team3, dead]; [target=Team4, dead]; [target=Team5, dead]
    /cast Ancestral Spirit

    Yay!! Lazy Mans Rez Macro!
    Resto Shaman + 4 DK's, work in progress...
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    Teezy/Jaqblaq @ Stormrage
    Emeritus Guardian and Keeper of the no focus manifesto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Zzyzxx71',index.php?page=Thread&postID=72077#post 72077
    The MONSTER macro (AKA The Big Button):

    The first thing we’re going to need is a follow macro. We’re going to toss a lot of utility in this follow macro. It may not look like much but this is the main macro for making all this work.

    /target [target=Brain, nodead]; [target=Toontwo, nodead]; [target=ToonThree, nodead]; [target=ToonFour, nodead]; [target=Brain]
    /follow

    Translated?

    /target [target=Main guy if he's alive]; [target=#2 if he's alive]; [target=#3 if he's alive]; [target=#4 if he's alive]; [target=Main guy - YOUR ALL DEAD]
    /follow

    This does the following.

    Follows your main guy, handles your failover to a non dead toon when your main dies (all you need to do is click on the next alive toons window, click whatever button you have assigned to follow, and the macro does the rest). It also will permit follow BACK to your main guy if you’re entire team is dead. Why isn’t the 5th guy listed in there? Because if the first 4 are dead – What’s the point in targeting yourself?
    Might want to do an "exists" there too:
    /target [target=Brain, nodead, exists]; [target=Toontwo, nodead, exists]; [target=ToonThree, nodead, exists]; [target=ToonFour, nodead, exists]; [target=Brain, exists]
    /follow

    This way if you log on with only 3 instead of 4 you will not have a problem. I use my pally tank for my 2 team and they all have the same follow command (i use focus but same end idea). Without the exists it stops at that statement. So if toon Brain, three, and four are the ones you play with, if Brain dies, the follow command will not work because two is not there and that macro then throws up an error.
    Aion:
    Azphel
    Dual Sorcerer (Medeia, Meddeia)
    1--------10---------20-x-------30---------40---------50

    Wow Horde retired
    Team 1: 1 pally and 4 shamTeam lvl 70
    Team 2: 1 DK and 1 Priest lvl 80

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    that's a good idea for those teams what aren't the typical 5 x shammy teams. Gonna add that later.
    Resto Shaman + 4 DK's, work in progress...
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    Teezy/Jaqblaq @ Stormrage
    Emeritus Guardian and Keeper of the no focus manifesto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Drizzit',index.php?page=Thread&postID=72080#post7 2080
    Might want to do an "exists" there too:
    /target [target=Brain, nodead, exists]; [target=Toontwo, nodead, exists]; [target=ToonThree, nodead, exists]; [target=ToonFour, nodead, exists]; [target=Brain, exists]
    /follow
    And a "help", for when your current main gets mind controlled. Also, you might want to create a second follow macro that has a reverse target order in case your current main gets polymorphed or otherwise crowd controlled.

    (Btw, I thought 'nodead' already implied 'exists'?)

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    Sweet! Thanks for putting this all in one thread. I've made the switch to No Focus macros and love it, so it's always great to have a definite place I can look for new macros.
    One More Than Four
    Elohkitty --- Devlir --- Deeb --- Behl --- Alisun
    Maelstrom, US-RPPVP

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Desible',index.php?page=Thread&postID=72130#post7 2130
    Sweet! Thanks for putting this all in one thread. I've made the switch to No Focus macros and love it, so it's always great to have a definite place I can look for new macros.
    The down side to this is if you are a tabber, as soon as your main tabs to switch targets your alts might be on different targets so you will have to hit the button to target your main again before you fire. This is one of the reasons i am using focus... at least for now.
    Aion:
    Azphel
    Dual Sorcerer (Medeia, Meddeia)
    1--------10---------20-x-------30---------40---------50

    Wow Horde retired
    Team 1: 1 pally and 4 shamTeam lvl 70
    Team 2: 1 DK and 1 Priest lvl 80

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    I like the ideas behind this. What are your latency problems using target=targettarget? I know assisting focus sometimes has latency issues, sometimes not. I would assume targettarget has the same issues as assist. I actually have a lot of my pew pew macros that will /assist focus 3 times before i even cast...hehe. I'm happy with my shamans and priests using focus, but I can see a PVE group with mages (or even priests) wanting to hold focus for sheeps and shackles.
    I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A bird will fall frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.

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    Default RE: God I hope this doesn't suck. The No Focus Manifesto v0.1

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Zzyzxx71',index.php?page=Thread&postID=72077#post 72077
    Extras:

    Heal+PewPew in 1!!

    /cast [harm] [target=targettarget, harm] Lightning Bolt; [target=targettarget, help] [] Lesser Healing Wave

    This is a great 2 in 1 macro – if your brain (whoever your brain may be) has a player targeted, they all heal the player – if the brain has no one targeted, they heal the brain – if they have an enemy targeted, pew pew pew
    OK, I understand how this works, but I would like to find a way to throw a few heals around while continuing to dps. For example, my "Brain" has agro and is taking damage, I don't want every slave to heal him, just 2 of the three slaves (4 shaman team). I want the 3rd slave to continue dpsing. The only way I can see to do it, is to have a separate macro for this scenario on each slave. Using targettarget to dps and target (since they have him targeted already) to heal. Hmmm..maybe with a modifier? But then all slaves would do the same thing anyway, right? Either all dps or all heal.
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    Tramab (16), Tramac (16), Tramad (16), Tramae (16)
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    Just cut off the healing part of the macro for Slave 3. Slave 3 will never be able to heal but he won't ever stop DPS'ing either. OR add a modifier to Slave 3's macro for the OH S!%* times that he really does need to heal.
    One More Than Four
    Elohkitty --- Devlir --- Deeb --- Behl --- Alisun
    Maelstrom, US-RPPVP

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    man, i love what you've done here! this is exactly what i was looking for. i was getting pretty frustrated w/ all the macros i was finding, if ur main dies they will all target ur secondary toons target but when i would switch to my secondary toon and tried to attack something it would automatically reselect itself as a target making it difficult to attack anything on that toon.

    @KvdM
    when u say add a help in there how exactly should it be done? can u just make it like this:
    /target [help] [target=Party1, nodead, exists]; [target=Party2, nodead, exists]; [target=Party3, nodead, exists]; [target=Party4, nodead, exists]; [target=Brain, exists]
    /follow
    or does it need to have "help" in each set:
    /target [target=Party1, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Party2, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Party3, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Party4, nodead, help, exists]; [target=Brain, exists]
    /follow

    hell for that matter could u just throw the "exists" part in the begining part of it too? or do those need to be in each section?
    example:
    /target [help, exists] [target=Party1, nodead]; [target=Party2, nodead]; [target=Party3, nodead]; [target=Party4, nodead]; [target=Brain]
    /follow
    just curious to save space for other possible macros if anyone knows.

    Anyways, nice job man glad i checked it out

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