Guild loot rules for a multi-boxer?

[Oatboat]

There are two sides I'm hearing - It costs alot for us to Raid and Multibox... we should roll on all our toons. And Only roll on Main and count others as alt spec.

I guess it depends on your server too. If you are on a multiboxer friendly server i'm sure you'll find perks. I'm on a not so friendly multiboxer server. I Joined an Ony raid at 70 just to have fun and get the achievement and maybe a bag. Well 2 bags drop and i roll for them on main and win 1 of them... well the master looter in charge says I dont like multiboxers so I dont get any loot. With all my toons dmg i did well over 47% of the dps on Ony lol. Only out dps'd by one warlock.

So if you are with friends.. just have fun and dont be greedy... but then again dont get pushed around for contributing. If you think they should let your toons roll tell them before loot drops... not after. And if they dont agree... just take one shaman and tell them to fill the rest of the spots.

[Rin]

I bring a different character to every raid so that I can gear them up independently. I only use my main shaman on guild Ulduar runs (the rest of my chars aren't even in the same guild). Everything else I can PuG with the rest of my undergeared dps/healz during the week.

[DgtlSorcrs]

Personally, I roll on my ONE most appropriate toon on a given boss/item, unless explicitly worked out beforehand.

If a cloth item drops, I'd either roll on my mage or priest if it was an upgrade for one of them, but never both.

Truthfully, I don't usualy have that issue as I solo-play my priest and she's full 213+ epics, and my mage is barely heroic geared... I'm not likely to be multiboxing anywhere my priest could actually USE an upgrade (Maly 25, Naxx25(KaelThas has my only upgrades), and Ulduar).

More likely, I'm "solo" multiboxing classic and BC content (though I bring my team along on "old skool raid night"), but none of my toons need anything pre-WOTLK, so it's a non-issue.

[offive]

Guess I am a little confused on loot concerns in Naxx or raids in general. In Naxx, there are 14 bosses, each drops multiple items. 2-3 in 10m, 3-4 in 25m?

On a 10 man run you're going to see at a minimum 28 items.
On a 25 man run you're going to see at a minimum 42 items.

I know the loot drops can sometimes not go a certain role's way. But in general by the end of one run each member of the raid should see at least one piece and a decent amount of gold if you're not wiping every pull. If you’re running with people who have most of their gear from say Naxx, then your chances go way up on gear.

The same numbers roughly apply to Ulduar; however, due to progression certain role’s take priority (in the guilds I have been in, tanks and healers generally get geared first, then dps). Now the gold sink that is progression raiding is an issue, but that goes back to hardcore versus casual players. Hardcore players probably don't have a cash flow issue, and they know the cost of pushing into new raiding content.

The worst gold sink for multiboxers is epic flying! 25k is way more intense if you have multiple teams.

Thus, is all the drama over loot in raids simply a sign of the WoW user base not doing the math? ?( I guess, my advice is play with people who are smart about loot and be patient, it takes some time but the gear comes.

[kadaan]

Everyone is allowed to roll. I personally only roll with one of my toons, and if I win, I give it to whatever player of mine I choose too.

That's basically how I do it. I roll for an item on one character, even if more than one would use it. Like if a nice spellpower ring drops I won't roll with my mage+priest+2xshaman, I'll decide which one I'd want to have it the most and only roll on that one character. If multiple items drop that I'd use (like a vanq token and a protector token,) I'll roll once on each.

If a raider's main character wants an item I always pass though.

In the end it's just loot. I play to see content, become a better player, and have fun with friends. No amount of loot is worth drama, and every single piece of loot will be upgraded sooner or later.

[Poetry]

We do 10 man raids with 3 people so not quite the same scenario as the OP but generally if it needs to be rolled on, we roll once for each driver and then it's up to the winner which toon they want to put the loot on. We don't put a loot limit on anyone so if the next boss drops something nice for you, you're just as welcome to roll. That said, we're all family so often we just discuss the loot and come to an agreement (I get the pants or you get the couch? :evil: ). It helps that we don't run even 2 of the same class/spec so it's usually clear who needs it.

[moji]

Are you running as a main or an alt? That's the real question. My guild runs EPGP, mains get first dibs, then alts or offspecs roll off for the leftovers. If you regularly bring your clones, then it's in the guild's best interest to gear them up, but I wouldn't roll over a main. Each of your alts should get a roll imo if no main wants it, offspec and alt gear - it's not forcing progression so who cares. But you should divy out gear so your #2 is better geared than #3 and #4 and so on. That way, if only 2 are needed, you bring your best team possible. No sense spreading out good gear all over if you're not always going to need all 5.

[Iceorbz]

I think that all of this kinda depends on what loot system. Personnaly I believe:

Any pug you roll on everything, a 10 man.. well I only run with friends so no real problems, we go main specs first and armor based (cloth get dibs on cloth, leather for leather first ect).

I think DKP solves this issue, and you can let your characters build points just like normal members. Thats what my guild does for any of my alts, each one has their own set of DKP points so the more I play one the more gear they get. Course alot of times im the only shaman and am able to get geared pretty fast for one guy which I have done now, almost all 7.5 in two raids.

I think its a question of what you want, and whos in your raid. If you are doing most of the dps and beating out everyone then hell yeah roll x4, if your scrubbing along then you prolly shouldnt take gear from those that are really pulling their weight.

[Maxion]

Being the leader of a pretty hard core raiding guild (on my solo character, got no boxing team high enough yet) I decided to be more multiboxing friendly than apparently any other guild on my server.
Since we use dkp, I decided that multiboxed characters in our raids, that could all perform as well as soloed characters, would earn and spend their own dkp.
So a dual-boxing warlock friend of mine raided with us a few times, and each character had its own dkp. (they were able to perform perfectly on even thaddius, better than several of the solo players)

[Clone]

I think at the end of the day there is never going to be 1 set of rules that can govern all loot handling. It is bad enough the amount of loot drama before you even take multiboxing into consideration. Each boxer just needs to come to an agreement with the other members of the raid (Be it at the start of the pug, or with your guild leaders). Personally when I used to box with my guild I used to get full dkp on my main and half dkp for my alts. My alts all got geared eventually anyway, and more often than not I would pass items from my alts untill everyones mains had them. Everyone in the guild appreciated my contribution and that was enough for me. On a few rare occasions when I couldnt afford to pay repair/flask costs on all the alts the guild bank would pay.