Guild loot rules for a multi-boxer?

[puppychow]

my guild doesn't really know I multibox, and I never bring my guys to raids together -- every week I just do 5x VoA10/25, and 1x Naxx25/Maly25/OS25/Ulduar. If I see anyone with a naxx10/25 saph/KT only pug I might join. I can actually get 4-6 vaults done every tuesday within 90 minutes, and I finish up the other 4-5 over the next few days (both 10 and 25). I don't join voa10 raids unless Im the only one of that class, screw competition I want a monopoly

I find raiding a lot more fun when I can focus 100% on just one character, I can see the fights and explore whats going on and if I die its not that much gold. Plus 5x as many chances to roll on stuff. I've already got T8 and T8.5 on 3 of my characters from Vault, and a few Ulduar items on my mage (guild runs tho so its a bit smoother, up to Mimiron).

[Otlecs]

I've never had a chance to raid with my guild (we have no problem filling raids, sadly... ) but I've PuGged some of the easier 10 man raid content (Sarth, VoA, Maly) and always, always roll with all my characters.

I have the same consumable cost (WHY DID I ROLL HUNTERS AS THE DPS IN MY FIRST 80 TEAM?!... argh.... *cough*...sorry), the same repair bills and clearly contribute alot more to the raid than the single character members so I just wouldn't bother if my characters weren't treated as individuals.

If I did ever go on a guild run, I'd be rolling as an alt on every character anyway, which (under our rules) gives mains priority if they need an item for their main spec.

I'm comfortable with that - I want our mains geared up ahead of the rest of us.

In your position, with the GM unsure of how to handle the situation and open to suggestions, I'd say it depends what your normal guild loot rules are.

If they contain an allowance for alts rolling on loot, clearly all of your characters are entitled to that roll (because your main is a priest).

If they don't contain that sort of allowance, it's arguably a bit more tricky and I'd suggest adding that as a general improvement to the rules anyway.

[Tizer]

i would be happy with the badges tbh

as a raid leader, a guild leader and a multiboxer my optinion would be to allow the multiboxer to have equal rights on 1 character and to forget the other 3 on follow.

I say this because inviting a multiboxer to a raid provides us/them with a lot of fun which should be the number one reason for raiding. Loot should not come first.

Next week if invited again, you could select a different shaman to roll on loot.

Although, if like me you play tank and 4 shaman, i always take my tank to instances and play solo, get geared up to make heroics easier. :x

No need to be greedy, getting into a 25 man run is a luxury not many boxers get to try

besides which, a multiboxers dps isnt all that great

[SilverSlice]

it is this simple

pugs = all chars /roll for loot if its an upgrade.

guild runs main char gor prio, unless its an alt run then all bloody chars /roll.

5 times expences ofc i be 5 times as greedy, unless it is a little raid with friends. then i dont mind "sharing"

Silver

[KvdM]

The guild I'm in treats multiboxing alts the same as other raid members. Every character gets to roll on an item if they need it. Due to me and Ken bringing mixed groups, we don't get any unfair situations where a normal member has to roll against a lot of alts.

[FunkStar]

I usually run my own 'naxx25 alt runs' which is mostly a combination of guildies and friends, alts etc. There sometimes are people in the raid that none of us know, so it's still kind of a pug.

We use the 50-dkp system. This basically means everyone gets 50 dkp at the start of the raid, and spends as much as they want on the item they want. Before I started using this system I always felt bad somehow about rolling on multiple chars, but with this 50-dkp system it seems so normal that all my shamans get 50 dkp separately and all bid for their own items. The only advantage I have that way is that I won't have to spend a ton on items, because I of course won't bid myself up. Saying you're taking loot from others, that there is 'more' people to roll against, is just untrue, because if you wouldn't multibox in that raid, there would be 2-3-4 other people invited to the raid that also roll for themselves.

If you'de be 'carried' by the raid, as in, dps lower than the average etc, then I'd say don't be greedy and just accept only rolling on 1, but if every one of your characters plays the roll of a single person in the raid, they all get an equal chance on loot.

[Dzonatan]

I think people have problem with multiboxers rolling as 5 people is that he has the 5x chance to roll on loot and pic on with toon he wants that loot given. Well no matter how you look at it if the multiboxer makes it much more easier then he has full right for it since he brings in 5 times more then a normal single toon player. But if he slows down the raid with his inferior skill and just makes thing worse then I think it would be fitting that he only gets 1 roll as 1 player.

Just think abaut it... 5x DPS with pulls off massive (like 5k in 25 Naxx) is a worthwile support that helps the guild greatly. But if a 5x multiboxer is a complete deuche that requires summoning, dosent food buff, elixir/flask and think he does most of the work then I see no reasons to flank him badly.

[Bigfish]

Just my 2 cents here: On tier sets/class exclusive pieces, show some consideration for your fellow (insert class here)s and only roll once. No one wants to be the soloboxed shaman having to roll against 5+ shamans all played by one guy for every piece of relevant loot. On the wider user-base peices, roll on all of them.

Of course, I suppose the lack of a hard and fast rule on that would confuse the uninitiated. They'd probably get pissed you were rolling on just one character for some pieces and all your characters for others.

Damn I'm glad loot is up to my sole discretion.

[Catamer]

I always go with need before greed meaning the person will use it NOW or at least as soon as they get it enchanted or modified.
I would second look at who attends the most often meaning someone (as in a character being played) who's at every raid and every boss should get at least some consideration over someone who can't.
I not sure how well you can multibox some of the bosses and you apparently don't bring them every time so I think they would roll in the non-need section, and hopefully you aren't opposed to spreading the wealth around if you start winning too much for the night that you start passing on stuff.

it might be best to get the group to agree on whatever loot policy is before the raid starts, that way you can opt not to bring extras that aren't going to get anything for all of the extra work your doing.

[Rms]

I just 5 boxxed KT the other day. My guys are still fresh so I wasn't doing too much more than single geared out character. In this case I just took whatever people didnt want or need.

In TBC I boxed 5 shamans in KZ a lot. Granted, there werent other shaman often in that case. But some of those runs wouldn't of happened if I didnt play half the raid. When they NEED you to come with more than one character in order to get the content done, it is only fair that your characters are treated as individuals and each get a roll. If you can put out the same DPS as a single person can with each of your characters, what makes you any less valuable?

Of course, you can always start your own guild!