Guild loot rules for a multi-boxer?

[binx]

First post....hi guys.

Imagine my surprise when my raid leader asked me to bring my 4 shamans instead of my usual holy priest for 25 man naxx. We had some extra slots and since they have never seen them in action, they thought it would be fun to bring them along.

I guess my question is.....loot rules for a multi-boxer. My guild master had no idea how to handle the looting with a multi boxer in the bunch. Since some of you guys are running naxx with your guild, how does your raid handle loot with you (a boxer) around? Are you allowed to only roll once (per toon?). I am worried that the other raiders might think that I am getting special treatment and taking loot away from them. I opted for just badges (didn't roll at all). I sure could use some of the loot - to be honest. I ended up with one tier 7.5 shoulder in the end (raid leader felt bad about me not rolling at all).

thanks for the time...

[Dominian]

Are you considering raiding with them? If you brought consumables and could keep up with the others dps i would say that each shaman should be equaly treated as a raid memeber.

However raids tend to see it the other way, your one guy and in every pug im in they ask me if i want to bring my other shamans. When i reply ofc if i can roll on all of them, and the discussion ususaly end there. Its a hard case, i mean Guild Masters cant seem to agree with themself if they should invite all of my shamans or just my "main".. Its not like it matters to me if they are all inside or not!

Do you feel your helping the raid or just slowing them down? I belive the answer lie there.

[Starbuck_Jones]

If I was a guild leader, this would be my response. If we are at a point where we are gearing alts and can clear 25man w/o 25 people, then each toon you play counts as a raid member especially in this case where they asked you to bring them over your main. If your still gearing mains and you are filling in holes or whatever and there are others that need upgrades. I would count you as one person but auto give you anything for the others if not NEEDed by someone else. I would not let someone greed over your other toons.

[Sam DeathWalker]

This is a long ongoing problem.

Basically I figure if you are doing 4 X dps or 4 X healing of a single toon you should get 4 rolls.

But obviously boxers are not as effieicent as single character players.

Ask for like 2-3 rolls for 4 characters.

Or what I was doing at the very end was saying I get my choice of ANY single item for the nights work (like 4 hour raid). That way you are sure to get what you want if it drops or walk away with at least one quality item and you get so few items (one) that hardly anyone can complain you are taking what they want.

[Tasty]

Guess it kinda depends on the mindset of the guild/raid. If the guild considers a 25 man raid a single unit then any upgrade to one character would be an upgrade to the raid as a whole. If that's the case I don't see why you couldn't roll on all of your characters.

[Zal]

4 rolls. tell the people to stop being pricks (in many of my cases) and using you multiboxing as an excuse for them to have better chance at winning gear (if you only got 1 roll), after all if you weren't there anyway they still have the exact same amount of people to compete with for gear. your doing #x the dps they are so why they heck shouldn't you get to roll on each character. AND paying for that many more accounts then them.

[razorbax]

Just talk with the GM. if its farmed contect, I agree with Starbuck_Jones, all should roll equal. If it's new content, I would say just roll on your main, and your alts get a chance to roll on gear not needed for main spec's etc. Maybe treat your alts as your offspec when rolling?

It also depends alot on any loot systems that may be in use.

[Dorffo]

I have the good fortune to run with the same crew every week... I basically only gear up one toon at a time, then treat the others as an offspec roll as someone else mentioned. This has worked out fairly well for us so far... but really we're so anti loot-drama that I don't think it'd be an issue if I wanted to roll with all of them.

[Kicksome]

I actually quit my crappy guild because I was going in with 5 toons in Naxx and getting screwed over on loot. I'd get a 500g repair bill every night and I was getting loot like I was a single person at best. Not to mention all the extra stress 5 boxing fights bring. And when a guild member came online, I'd have to drop a guy, then when someone would leave I'd have to bring a guy. All that trouble and expense isn't worth getting loot like you're a solo player. I blew threw 10K in repair bills in a few weeks and got maybe 2-3 drops. I seriously couldn't believe none of the guild members passed stuff to me - only sucking up to the officers. Sooooo un-appreciated.

Considering all the time and expense it cost to level and gear them so they can raid, you deserve some consideration.

If it's a pug, roll on all your toons. Maybe for your guild say that you'll be fine with only 2 rolls. Repair bills are a TON when you bring 4 guys in and wipe.

If I bring 2 guys to a pug I always roll with both. If I have 5 I usually roll on a couple only, but a lot of times it's because I already have the piece on a few of my guys. e.g. bag from OS.

[Clovis]

All 4 of my shamans are fully geared for pvp (800 resil, 19.5k HP) -- for raiding so far I only do pugs -- I haven't been able to get into a guild raid since WOTLK which is kind of sad since back in BC I was in pretty much every raid with my resto shaman.

So I do pugs -- two of my shamans have epic flyers, dual specs (Ele / resto) so I usually go double healer -- I'll run the other two if we can't find another dps I'm the only multiboxer on the server that I'm aware of so most people know me -- every run I've been able to roll x the number of toons I have -- most raid leaders are cool with looting a specific item to one of my shamans even if that one didn't win the roll (ie, I won on one of the toons, I'll tell them to loot it to xxx character).

This works great in Naxx but in the one boss raids it's hit or miss (EOE, OS, new vault) because I can walk out with 100g in repairs per toon and not get anything at all -- the last two vaults have been like that -- I've run double heals or double DPS, down the boss after a few attempts but no shaman loots.

InventoryOnPar though is my new favorite mod (gear checks the entire raid) -- I can quickly tell if the raid is capable of a paticular instance.

When I was running 5 mans however I would only roll once because I ran with the same 3 tanks from level 70-80. I told them the tanks to grab any greens they wanted, roll on any blue/epic BOEs that dropped -- we usually got about the same amount of greens.



-Clov