Guild loot rules for a multi-boxer?

[Ken]

I didn't ask the guild/raid leader "can I roll with both?", I told them that I'll roll for "Need" with all characters whenever I actually need an item for that specific character, not more. I asked if he agreed with that and he thought it was fine.
If your guild really needs extra characters in the raid, they have 2 choices:
- they allow a multiboxer guildee to bring extra characters that all loot as a 'normal' player
- they PUG someone who might mess up encounters(ninja-pulls), doesn't know the strategies, leaves early, etc and will ALSO loot items for any added PUG character.

Situation examples:
- When I had 2 shamans with me and both would need item X, they would both roll for it and if 1 of them won, I was also able to chose where the item went to(since they needed it both, but one might need it more than the other). I only recall 1 guild member opposing that.
- When I had 2 shamans with me and only 1 would need item X then only that 1 shaman would roll.
- For stuff that everyone can roll on, I roll with all characters.

Now I have a multiclass group, so that simplifies the whole issue even more.

Or to put it short:
If I put effort in playing multiple characters and when I pay the repair bills for raiding with them, I also want the advantage of being able to roll for loot on all those characters. It's only fair.
I don't mind only bringing 1 character though.

[Allestaria]

I see it this way. IF you didn't bring in your team. Then they would have to invite 5 other people. So I don't see why you can't roll as 5 different people would.

I see no need to pass on loot. Repair,consumables, etc costs a ton. And your ONE person providing for 5. Which IMO alone gets 5 rolls. I see no reason what so ever it should not be this way. It doesn't matter how many people are behind the toons. It comes down to the fact you are helping the raid at as one person but with 5 toons that are doing what 5 other people would do.
Now I do agree with the healing/dps issue. If your not holding up to par then its up to the raid leader/gl to decide. But if all things are going like they should and your holding up to what needs to be done. Then I say roll x5.

I know when my teams get into raiding. Eachone is open to loot. As eachone is its own toon. May be controlled by one person. But its either one person who knows the fights or 5 nubs who have no clue.
But thats me. I'm not a loot hog. As I could care less over all. But I do like the chance to at least say yes I want it or nah its not big enough upgrade. I don't like others making the decision for me. I'm not a child and need my hand held. And will not accept it while playing a game either.

I just recently left a guild because the Gl who was a HORRIBLE healer. Took 3 pieces. Without giving the other 5 of us healers a chance for the items. She decided she was going to take them. And of course it was talked with the officers which NONE are healing spec and didn't care. This to me is ninja looting. Its taking advantage of the other people that are there just to gear yourself up.

[Ken]

Now I do agree with the healing/dps issue. If your not holding up to par then its up to the raid leader/gl to decide. But if all things are going like they should and your holding up to what needs to be done. Then I say roll x5.

I agree. Looting as a 'normal' character does only applies if you perform like 'normal' characters. (maybe with the exemption of the very first run)

But thats me. I'm not a loot hog. As I could care less over all. But I do like the chance to at least say yes I want it or nah its not big enough upgrade. I don't like others making the decision for me. I'm not a child and need my hand held. And will not accept it while playing a game either.

I don't care too much about the loot itself either (although it's nice to have), but I do want to be treated fairly/equally as the rest of the characters.

I just recently left a guild because the Gl who was a HORRIBLE healer. Took 3 pieces. Without giving the other 5 of us healers a chance for the items. She decided she was going to take them. And of course it was talked with the officers which NONE are healing spec and didn't care. This to me is ninja looting. Its taking advantage of the other people that are there just to gear yourself up.

Taking items from a raid without consulting the whole raid (even if it's not something they can use!) is wrong. Sorting out gear always goes into the raid chat(we use master loot) and if anyone doesn't agree, he/she can speak up. Even after it's announced who gets what, handing out stuff always goes with a countdown too so people can react before the gear is actually handed out.

[binx]

The naxx 25 runs are just farm runs....gearing up new people. After reading all your posts, I asked the RL if i could roll as 1 person (for my 4x elem. shammies) and then decide who gets the loot (if i win). Last night, we ran plague and spider wing again. These wings are fairly easy to box - except for heigan. I didn't get anything =P. Only time I had a shot at rolling (shoulder token), a hunter rolled a 100 inch: . My shammies were averaging 2700 dps. It's not the best, but it wasnt the worst either. Overall, still had fun.

My shammies survived heigan too! All 4 lived......strafe for the win. I wished they were all strafing at the same angle, but they still managed to dance.....lol.

Thanks for the feedbacks.

B.TW. I really hate Skadi.

[Ualaa]

There are two different things to consider, imo.

Firstly, in a PUG, I'd have each toon roll on anything that was an up for the toon in question.
If you have four toons, yet only one is upgraded, only that toon should roll.
If you have four toons, all of whom are upgraded, they should each roll.

Secondly, in a guild run, it really comes down to how often your secondary/slaves will attend.
If they are there as fill in characters, the secondaries probably shouldn't roll against a main.
If on the other hand, your team will attent the majority of raids, they should be treated as individuals.
If the guild wants to give you a single dkp pool, that's fine, but then each toon should earn dkp simultaneously.
Bottom line: If the team is part of the progression, they should gear up too.

I've personally, in the past, been told only one toon can roll, and have in those situations only brought one toon.
Pretty much, if I raid, its 1-boxing now.

[ciscokid454]

If I was a guild leader, this would be my response. If we are at a point where we are gearing alts and can clear 25man w/o 25 people, then each toon you play counts as a raid member especially in this case where they asked you to bring them over your main. If your still gearing mains and you are filling in holes or whatever and there are others that need upgrades. I would count you as one person but auto give you anything for the others if not NEEDed by someone else. I would not let someone greed over your other toons.

I agree with this.