Posting it while i can. #1 5v5!!!!!

[Kruschpakx4]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/arena-ladder...1&sf=rank&sd=a

Hah got also rank 1... ez mode

[Dominian]

my only problem is that 5vs5 in group is stone dead.. hardly a fight each day in the whole group

Yep but i bet it will go up monday/tuesday since everyone wants to hit a certain rating!

[Dominian]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xm...earing+Pantiez

3rd now that its updated but certainly possible to get higher!

[Fat Tire]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/arena-ladder...1&sf=rank&sd=a

Hah got also rank 1... ez mode

Nice W/L better than me. hehe


Paladin healer is money,money money!!!!

That aura mastery is amazing. AM gives you 10sec of silence immunity. you cannot get kicked, pummeled, counterspelled and wont suffer from pushback.

Edit: I believe they will do something to 5s, its really dead for the most part everywhere and has been dead for a while. Either boosting points given or deleting it or even coming out with a new bracket....

[FunkStar]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xm...earing+Pantiez

3rd now that its updated but certainly possible to get higher!

U linked the wrong team though ;-)
Was some fun matches against you yesterday. Kept telling my healer to cyclone your main guy, but she got all confused by your names

[Dominian]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xm...earing+Pantiez

3rd now that its updated but certainly possible to get higher!

U linked the wrong team though ;-)
Was some fun matches against you yesterday. Kept telling my healer to cyclone your main guy, but she got all confused by your names

lol i have no idea why i linked your team Most likley due to pasting it to him ingame but oh well!

Yeah and i told my priest to los like hell if he was flameshocked but he said "Whut?" then he was dead.

Anyway boxer vs boxer fights is very random and the cyclone was annoying enough when she managed to!

Lets hope the bracket gets more active when people starts to clear uludar on a more normal basis!

[mrmcgee21]

I got my team to 1615 last week( went higher but lost a couple ) and the only team we fought that I just flat out had no idea how to counter was a 3 melee team. This is really strange because melee teams are usually like, gg ty for the points, but this team has a secret weapon. That is.... a FoK spamming rogue. This ability is so broke its not even funny, I actually 1 shot their warrior a few times while TS'n/stunning the DK and the single rogue killed my entire team ( 22k hp 950 resil on all 4, resto druid has 20kish 700 resil ) about 1 sec after this CoS wore off. FoK also interrupts all spell casting so, you literally cannot do a fucking thing. We had many many matches where the combat lasted no more than 5 sec and the rogue broke 100k dmg, his teammates where around 20k dmg and keep in mind, one of them was a bladestorming warrior. Only thing I can think to do is just spread out and try to help cut down on the FoK dmg but spreading out has some big disadvantages. First one is turning is an nightmare, one shaman is almost always turning the wrong way if you have melee weaving in and out. Second thing is healing, AOE heals dont work, chain heals dont work. But I'm hoping just a quick spread out while the rogue burns his CoS then reform and ice the fucker after CoS runs out, thats my best guess. I will say most rogues cannot even come close to this guys dmg, he must have some kind of OP trinket/spec build that makes his FoK do rediculous dmg, also that allows him to just spam it 7-10 times in a row without running out of energy, I believe this is a combat tree rogue.

Anyway's, thats how my first week went. Earlier in the week we saw a ton of really well organized teams with gladiator tags but I guess they stopped queueing because over the weekend it was mostly just cannon fodder. So biggest issue's atm is oragnized AoE spam, honestly pillar humping teams didnt do as well thanks to the earthbind root and the instant lvb(which has a massive rng factor btw 20k-50k dmg depending on resil and rng counting all 4 hitting).

[Dominian]

I got my team to 1615 last week( went higher but lost a couple ) and the only team we fought that I just flat out had no idea how to counter was a 3 melee team. This is really strange because melee teams are usually like, gg ty for the points, but this team has a secret weapon. That is.... a FoK spamming rogue. This ability is so broke its not even funny, I actually 1 shot their warrior a few times while TS'n/stunning the DK and the single rogue killed my entire team ( 22k hp 950 resil on all 4, resto druid has 20kish 700 resil ) about 1 sec after this CoS wore off. FoK also interrupts all spell casting so, you literally cannot do a fucking thing. We had many many matches where the combat lasted no more than 5 sec and the rogue broke 100k dmg, his teammates where around 20k dmg and keep in mind, one of them was a bladestorming warrior. Only thing I can think to do is just spread out and try to help cut down on the FoK dmg but spreading out has some big disadvantages. First one is turning is an nightmare, one shaman is almost always turning the wrong way if you have melee weaving in and out. Second thing is healing, AOE heals dont work, chain heals dont work. But I'm hoping just a quick spread out while the rogue burns his CoS then reform and ice the fucker after CoS runs out, thats my best guess. I will say most rogues cannot even come close to this guys dmg, he must have some kind of OP trinket/spec build that makes his FoK do rediculous dmg, also that allows him to just spam it 7-10 times in a row without running out of energy, I believe this is a combat tree rogue.

Anyway's, thats how my first week went. Earlier in the week we saw a ton of really well organized teams with gladiator tags but I guess they stopped queueing because over the weekend it was mostly just cannon fodder. So biggest issue's atm is oragnized AoE spam, honestly pillar humping teams didnt do as well thanks to the earthbind root and the instant lvb(which has a massive rng factor btw 20k-50k dmg depending on resil and rng counting all 4 hitting).

Its a combat talent that makes it interrupt and yes its a thing i fear ALOT, even more with if your in a dead brackett... This means they can pretty much expect that its you they are fighting and make theyr rogue swap to combat.

If you got a paladin healer he can pop aura mastery wich means you can cast spells without interruption and thats the time you have to get the rogue aswell. Rogues are super soft and go down like a brick in water once that clos is gone, if he vanish drop a earth bind. (ofc this always sounds easy on paper)

This team very pretty hard to beat and is dominating the 5v5 in our BG.. http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...h&n=Wigglytuff

Certainly not impossible but still very hard! I sadly only got 2 matches against them and the first they rushed me SO hard i got totaly suprised, second one i decided to try my burst on the warrior wich didnt use a shield but like i expected theyr paladin bubbled and absorbed 30% of the damage. (this ablibity is insane tbh, i should get a paladin myself to counter it)

My priest was focused and got hit pretty hard but if i can get a early kill or last 10 seconds.. (my priest could even try to mass dispell it if possible)

There is no doubt that our hardest counter is 3 meele with 2 healers.. 2 meele 1 caster with 2 healers is easy mode if i keep groundings up!

This was the only fight that seemed impossible to me, the rest actually went very good and there was no teams i didnt win against. Losing teams with hunters require full focus, i faced one with 4 ressers but managed to win..

[asonimie]

Well said McGee. I have been wondering for a couple months when someone at blizz would wake up and see how broken FoK is.... then they went and gave it a +20% dmg glyph. Unbelievable. My shamans are all sitting at 900 resil 22.5k hp (leader is 25k hp and 1010 resil), and Ive been killed in 4 seconds by a single rogue with MAYBE 2 tenacity on him in WG too many times. I worship my box formation in open pvp... and I absolutely hate it in arena for the exact reasons you said. There is so much fear and stunning in 5v5 that its impossible to reliably get all 4 guys facing the correct way... so I just dont know about the FoK problem. Insta Gib a dps, spread out wait for cloak, turn and LB CL ES nuke the rogue... best i can figure.

How are you doing against the SF / FrNova / Fear / SF / Typhoon 15 second CC combos? This is what makes 5v5 absolutely abysmal. I am beating my head against the wall this week (over 140 matches) for the sole purpose of finding weaknesses in these teams... but its tough with all dps targets sitting at 28k hp. Granted, the team in question is already 2000 #1 BG with multiple Gladiator tags... but I still enjoy the practice. I have killed them a few times so its worth it.

[magwo]

Well said McGee. I have been wondering for a couple months when someone at blizz would wake up and see how broken FoK is.... then they went and gave it a +20% dmg glyph. Unbelievable. My shamans are all sitting at 900 resil 22.5k hp (leader is 25k hp and 1010 resil), and Ive been killed in 4 seconds by a single rogue with MAYBE 2 tenacity on him in WG too many times. I worship my box formation in open pvp... and I absolutely hate it in arena for the exact reasons you said. There is so much fear and stunning in 5v5 that its impossible to reliably get all 4 guys facing the correct way... so I just dont know about the FoK problem. Insta Gib a dps, spread out wait for cloak, turn and LB CL ES nuke the rogue... best i can figure.

How are you doing against the SF / FrNova / Fear / SF / Typhoon 15 second CC combos? This is what makes 5v5 absolutely abysmal. I am beating my head against the wall this week (over 140 matches) for the sole purpose of finding weaknesses in these teams... but its tough with all dps targets sitting at 28k hp. Granted, the team in question is already 2000 #1 BG with multiple Gladiator tags... but I still enjoy the practice. I have killed them a few times so its worth it.

You're probably playing against a "real" team. Many of the other battlegroups seem so inactive that they may actually not have any teams playing that represent the true possible performance of a top 5v5 team.