ISBoxer Toolkit - Zero to Hero in 30 minutes Setup.

[Jheusse]

Really looking forward to the new version/interface. The existing interface I'd make an analogy to HP calculators with their RPN style calculation entry compared to traditional. Very powerful, very flexible, and you can make an argument that it's superior in function, but it can be really hard to grasp and can take significant time to train your brain to work that way intuitively.

It's been a very slow slog for me to embrace the existing interface, as much by lack of time as by lack of brains, but I'll be interested to see the new interface. The wizards and quick starts and videos have brought ISBoxer from "oh no way, don't even think about it unless you're a coder yourself" to "It's a little tricky but even a layman can handle the basics". It's only a little further in layout and interface to where the light bulb goes on for halfwits like me.

[Chilaxx]

It took me 3 evenings to finally get something going where I was really proud of.
Some stuff that got me frustrated was that apparently my FTL modifiers weren't recognized.. only 3 of the 6 are usable for me. Tbh, this isn't a real problem for me, but it was hard to find out.. I'm a programmer myself, so it's a bit easier for me to find my own bugs

But tbh, lax has done a fantastic job with isboxer, the only sad thing i can think about is that i didn't use it right away when i started boxing! The program is super, but that's not all imo..
You also get great support: irc / forum / the thing where you can post your config in (don't remember the name)
And also, you know he's a great developer, and that he keeps developing isboxer.

Those were 2 of the things that made the switch to isboxer a no-brainer for me!

Just wanted to post my findings ^^


Ciao!

[Seldum]

Thanks for a great Original Post. It was really helpfull in getting started.

I have previously used keyclone and Jamba but im trying ISboxer and innerspace out.

Im struggeling with understanding the FTL system build in into ISboxer, but ill read a bit more and hopefully figure it out.

My current question is how you guys use the repeater. Im use to keyclone where all my keystroke gets repeted on the slaves. I know I can enable this in Isboxer, but I think I wont because it also has some draw backs.

Atm im configuring the F-keys to be repeated on my slaves... but I would also need to setup fx. Shift+F1 seperately if I need this combination repeated....

My question is, do you guys specify all combination you need in ISboxer under keymaps or do you toggle repeater on and off as needed?

My All druid team is only lvl 54 so I don't have alot of instance experience, yet, and therefore not a very sophisticated setup for now.

*EDIT: Poor language.

[Ualaa]

I personally have gone with keymaps for anything that I'd like to do on a regular basis as part of my playing.
I've broken repeater into two hotkeys (keyboard on M1 and mouse on M2 - using a G15).
I only ever use keyboard repeating for things like entering password/authenticator code or /use Hearthstone.

[Reglar]

So I followed the tutorial in the original post, but I must be not understanding something or set it up wrong.

I have my DPS keys (1-=) in a set with FTL enabled.

I have my individual keys with 1 step which do 2 actions - first sends my assist key, then the DPS key (so 1 is set up to press the assist key and 1).

If I have the key itself set to use FTL, the assist works, but the DPS key shows up as !. If I turn off the FTL option on the key, assist doesn't work but 1 passes correctly and fires the button mapped to 1.

If it matters I'm using Bartender4 for my bar mod.

BTW, I have assist in a different keymap set, if that matters. It fires fine by itself too.

So, what have I screwed up?

Thanks.

[Lax]

Your DPS keys should NOT have FTL enabled, and do not have it enabled by default. Enabling FTL on your DPS keys will stop things from working correctly.

Exactly 3 keys should have FTL enabled: FTL Follow Me, FTL Assist Me, and FTL Target Me. All other keys should use FTL through those keys via a Do Mapped Key Action.

[Reglar]

Thanks Lax. I'll fix that tonight.

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Yup, that fixed it, thanks again. Just in case you update the original post in the future, in the DPS key section it shows a normal key action in the screenshot, not a Do Mapped Key Action for the assist key, and that's where I went off track.

[Seldum]

I finally got to play a bit over the weekend and finished the fairly "simple" setup im currently running. I though I better start out simple and then add stuff on as I go along.

I'm still not satisfied because I don't feel enough in control of my toons, but im slowly getting the hang off it.

I did a quest with a mob that constantly fearbombed my group. I found out the hard way about having Jamba followstrobing on.... it was total chaos lol.

I have used the setup wizards and modified the keys for "setjambamaster" "jambastrobe bla bla." But I find that I constantly have to hit these buttons to make my toons follow my current char. When I swich window the new toon (2) becomes master. Which is fine I guess, but when I swich back to the "main" all toons still think the other toon (2) is master. So I have to manually set my main to master again.

Any tips how you guys control your group with ISboxer and Jamba?

My solution to the fear problem was to disable follow strobing, putting the group out on one side, and controlling my "main" when it got feared.

Im considering turning of the followstroping, and making a seperate follow button as I used to have to control when my toons should follow the char im currently controlling.

also, can you put a popup text in the Repeater profile to make it popup when you toggle repeater on or off?

Great program Lax, and thanks for your huge passion towards wow. You and the rest of experienced players on this site rocks.

[Ualaa]

I too initially enabled FTL on some of my FTL DPS keys.
Basically figured the default action was use FTL, so moving to Use FTL instead of Default action made no difference.
Once I reverted to only using FTL for the three keys mentioned above, two of my issues disappeared.

The support for ISBoxer is as good as the support for Keyclone.
The community is lucky to have such great options and strong support for them.
I've seen Freddie post a lot of support too, so that is not limited to just the two products I've used.



I really like the functionality of toons automatically following the new toon on a character switch.
However, running "Shoot'em Up", and having all of my toons get out of the turrets...
Three of them ran over the edge and died, when I switched back to the tank from the toon who was in the middle most of the turrets.
Really a funny moment. With anything, you need to experiment with it and learn what works and what doesn't.

In my case, disabling keymaps let's me switch windows without auto follow kicking in.
I know enough now, to be able to turn auto follow on a PiP swap off.
But I'd rather have it on by default and turn keymaps off when I want to disable the behavior...
Then to have it off by default and press the follow key all the time.
Then again, in heroics independent movement can be an asset, so more then one set up depending on what I'm doing... ie automatic follow in PvP but not on my PvE teams might be an idea.

[Lax]

I have used the setup wizards and modified the keys for "setjambamaster" "jambastrobe bla bla." But I find that I constantly have to hit these buttons to make my toons follow my current char. When I swich window the new toon (2) becomes master. Which is fine I guess, but when I swich back to the "main" all toons still think the other toon (2) is master. So I have to manually set my main to master again.

I believe this has to do with the speed of switching. If I switch through a lot of different windows very quickly, I notice that the Jamba Master doesn't instantly change every time. That's not so much of an issue as if you're using strobing though. Both of these are hampered (slowed down, impeded) by using the Jamba "all" tag to tell the other characters to set the master and the same for follow strobing.

Any tips how you guys control your group with ISboxer and Jamba?

My solution to the fear problem was to disable follow strobing, putting the group out on one side, and controlling my "main" when it got feared.

Im considering turning of the followstroping, and making a seperate follow button as I used to have to control when my toons should follow the char im currently controlling.

You know, even after automatic transmission was invented, many people still buy cars with manual transmission. That's because the automatic version sucks in various situations, where manual will give the driver full control over what's happening.

I don't use strobing because I prefer the level of control that an auto-follow key gives me. It's one of my 3 most important keys, which are Follow, Assist, and DPS Spam. If you watched me during combat, my left hand is almost exclusively pressing those 3 keys, with one finger on each. Also, many times I like to switch characters around and do different things on each, and having the others auto-follow me when I switch would be annoying. For example, doing collection quests if I'm right by like 3 objects on the ground that each guy is supposed to be collecting, I try to minimize my total time by running up to 1 and looting with one guy, and while he's busy with that I can loot with another guy. If the first guy turned around and followed, that would defeat the purpose

With that i mind, I will say that I am keeping all of these issues in mind and will make better solutions available as soon as I can

also, can you put a popup text in the Repeater profile to make it popup when you toggle repeater on or off?

Instead of adding additional features to the built-in repeater hotkeys, the functionality available to Mapped Keys is extended. The Quick Setup Wizard for example gives you Shift+Alt+R to toggle Repeater, and it has a popup text action.