I didnt feel i was missing out on anything once i started getting raped left right and center on the hunters Sure, they were good fun and i went for long periods insta killing peopel but I soon stopped playing them in favour of the shaman I hate losing and i hate being killed, it drives me nuts So the only real solution to stop me throwing the pc out the window was shaman i guess its down to how serious you are about doing well in BGs/PVP at the end of the day, i dont have any room in my schedule for regular shafting sessions from priests, locks, wars anymore I'll probably do 1 shaman and 4 DKs in the BGs for a bit of a change once they get to 80, but there is no way on earth i'll play without a tremor totem in my armoury anymore :>