Okay, who is this?

[gantell]

The pic is small, I can't read any of the toons names, I don't even know if it's Alliance, or horde.

Im glad someone besides me pointed out this simple fact, although I did blow it up and make out the names, and its allience cause of the toons avitars arnt horde guys.

Is there a picture of Prepared toons in allience turrents refusing to fire?

What point would that be? The picture is not unreadable if you enlarge it a little. I can read it fine at 1680 x 1050. The toons are alliance - the armory is a wonderful thing!

Ok - he has some Allience toons in WG but I don't see any of his Horde so what does it prove ? But I can just barely make out those, is there something in the picture I am missing?

[Malekyth]

I don't understand how that screenshot is damning evidence either. It could be that he messed up and broadcast a warning to the wrong side, or it could be that he was playing his Alliance toons and pointing out the location where he just got owned by the nasty enemy Horde. It's only evidence if you've already made up your mind -- which I had, pending the rebuttal that we've received. Is this the only screenshot we've got? That really weakens the case if the best evidence we have is one ambiguous screenshot. Evidence isn't that hard to collect, you just find his double-agents, start a stopwatch and take some screenies. That we don't have a gallery of evidence indicates that we might not actually have a case.

By the way, I don't generally think that life is quite so dramatic that a bunch of people got together to lie on Prepared. It's more possible that, as often happens, someone saw a multiboxer and misinterpreted what was going on, then a lot of like minds followed along. Conspiracies are complicated, mob mentality following a misunderstanding is simple.

[Smoooth]

How do you guys think that screenshot is proof of anything? To me its kind of obvious he was trying to yell to his horde team where to defend. You dont need spies to know where someone is attacking and call for a defense. Plus like he said he would need his alliance to be in a raid to see where the raid is to begin with.

As to why he had his 6 allies on in the same WG at the same time? Why the hell not? Everyone farms WG marks. Might as well get them on all your toons when you are on.

[Malekyth]

Yeah, if you ignore all of Sam's hypotheticals, misinterpretations, innacurate information, and inability to draw meaningful comparisons, sure.

Hypotheticals, misintepretations, inaccurate information, and inability to draw meaningful comparisons are trolling? Please explain, because this will have been the first I've heard of it.

[Prepared]

hmm this is troublesome

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...es/cheat-1.jpg

Found in
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...eNo=3&sid=1#48

Prepared- care to explain that screenshot ?

I'm not quite sure what I need to explain given this message thread created by Gadzooks seems to have brought in a lot of attention and discussion.

There is a screen shot where 6 Alliance characters are saying "WEST SIDE OF HTE BASE" in general chat in Wintergrasp.

Where are those 6 alliance characters? Are they part of any raid group? If the assumption is that those 6 alliance characters are also being boxed by me on the Horde side controlling 10 Horde characters, where are those 10 Horde characters on the map? I would venture to say they would be NEAR the WEST SIDE of the base.

So I don't quite follow what needs to be explained. Are there specific questions that anyone has directed to me? As I've stated before, none of my accounts have had any action taken against them. No warnings. If I did anything wrong, I would think that I'd be the first to suffer the consequences.

By the way, Clybourn, the one that took the screenshot and posted it in the Aegwynn forums, I have destroyed many times in the game. I wouldn't think he would like me and will bring up anything possible to stop me from destroying him in the game.

However you want to take this discussion, that is entirely up to you. However, I didn't bring this discussion here but I will answer any questions in regards to anything I'm doing with World of Warcraft.

[unseen]

hmm this is troublesome

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...es/cheat-1.jpg

Found in
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...eNo=3&sid=1#48

Prepared- care to explain that screenshot ?

I'm not quite sure what I need to explain given this message thread created by Gadzooks seems to have brought in a lot of attention and discussion.

There is a screen shot where 6 Alliance characters are saying "WEST SIDE OF HTE BASE" in general chat in Wintergrasp.

Where are those 6 alliance characters? Are they part of any raid group? If the assumption is that those 6 alliance characters are also being boxed by me on the Horde side controlling 10 Horde characters, where are those 10 Horde characters on the map? I would venture to say they would be NEAR the WEST SIDE of the base.

So I don't quite follow what needs to be explained. Are there specific questions that anyone has directed to me? As I've stated before, none of my accounts have had any action taken against them. No warnings. If I did anything wrong, I would think that I'd be the first to suffer the consequences.

By the way, Clybourn, the one that took the screenshot and posted it in the Aegwynn forums, I have destroyed many times in the game. I wouldn't think he would like me and will bring up anything possible to stop me from destroying him in the game.

However you want to take this discussion, that is entirely up to you. However, I didn't bring this discussion here but I will answer any questions in regards to anything I'm doing with World of Warcraft.

Here's a couple questions I think everybody would like to see answered/confirmed:

Are those your alliance characters?
I'm assuming you have 6 (as opposed to just one sitting there) just to farm tokens, correct?
Are you calling out weaknesses in the alliance defense/offense to the horde?

I'm assuming the answers to the first two questions are both yes. If the third question's answer is yes I think it's a bit unfair to make a statement like the one below if you're calling out the weaknesses in the alliance plans for the horde to see.

"On Aegwynn, Horde owns Wintergrasp about 80% of the time. Primarily because I understand the battle and give directions prior the start of the battle in the raid and in Horde trade chat about what players need to do. It works most of the time and I will post the strategy here for anyone that needs the information. The thing is, some players already know it, but they don't let other players know it prior to the start of the battle. That's why the Alliance loses, they don't tell the players what to do at the start of the battle."

One other question (sorry):

I will state it again for everyone to be clear on this: I have never gotten onto any vehicle in Wintergrasp on any Alliance character. I have not received any warning from any GMs.

I'm assuming by "vehicle" that this includes turrets also, correct? (i.e. that you've never hopped into vehicles or turrets on the alliance characters)

[Gadzooks]

hmm this is troublesome

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...es/cheat-1.jpg

Found in
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...eNo=3&sid=1#48

Prepared- care to explain that screenshot ?

I'm not quite sure what I need to explain given this message thread created by Gadzooks seems to have brought in a lot of attention and discussion.

There is a screen shot where 6 Alliance characters are saying "WEST SIDE OF HTE BASE" in general chat in Wintergrasp.

Where are those 6 alliance characters? Are they part of any raid group? If the assumption is that those 6 alliance characters are also being boxed by me on the Horde side controlling 10 Horde characters, where are those 10 Horde characters on the map? I would venture to say they would be NEAR the WEST SIDE of the base.

So I don't quite follow what needs to be explained. Are there specific questions that anyone has directed to me? As I've stated before, none of my accounts have had any action taken against them. No warnings. If I did anything wrong, I would think that I'd be the first to suffer the consequences.

By the way, Clybourn, the one that took the screenshot and posted it in the Aegwynn forums, I have destroyed many times in the game. I wouldn't think he would like me and will bring up anything possible to stop me from destroying him in the game.

However you want to take this discussion, that is entirely up to you. However, I didn't bring this discussion here but I will answer any questions in regards to anything I'm doing with World of Warcraft.

Getting attention to the issue was my intent, Prepared. I did'nt post it to attack anyone, I saw a heated thread concerning MBing, and wanted to:

A. Call attention to the fact that someone in our community might be doing something really effed up that could effect us all

and

B. Point out to newbies who might be thinking of trying something like this, that it's not a good idea.

I don't want to get into the drama on your realm forum, so I won't ask any questions. I'll let this play out on it's own - my intent has been fulfilled.

[gantell]

My group is only in the low 70's so I have not yet been to WG.

But wouldn't the parking of inactive characters on the opposing side have a negative impact on the Tenacity for that side?

If that is true then wouldn't it be a rather unsportsman like behavior.

[Moorea]

Prepared: why do you say "if" - are you denying those 6 characters to be your toons ?

Would you mind sharing what are those 6 allies of yours doing in the same WG as your hordies ? (This is isn't a malicious/trick question; some members here advanced that may all they do is token farming - which I guess would be minor "afk'ing" offense (that many do but still isn't quite good to do) - but do you do anything else with them ? like glance at their screen to see what allies are doing or saying; or worse... like using equiment, etc... ?)

[Gomotron]

Here's a couple questions I think everybody would like to see answered/confirmed:

Are those your alliance characters?
I'm assuming you have 6 (as opposed to just one sitting there) just to farm tokens, correct?
Are you calling out weaknesses in the alliance defense/offense to the horde?

I'm assuming the answers to the first two questions are both yes. If the third question's answer is yes I think it's a bit unfair to make a statement like the one below if you're calling out the weaknesses in the alliance plans for the horde to see.

"On Aegwynn, Horde owns Wintergrasp about 80% of the time. Primarily because I understand the battle and give directions prior the start of the battle in the raid and in Horde trade chat about what players need to do. It works most of the time and I will post the strategy here for anyone that needs the information. The thing is, some players already know it, but they don't let other players know it prior to the start of the battle. That's why the Alliance loses, they don't tell the players what to do at the start of the battle."

One other question (sorry):

I will state it again for everyone to be clear on this: I have never gotten onto any vehicle in Wintergrasp on any Alliance character. I have not received any warning from any GMs.

I'm assuming by "vehicle" that this includes turrets also, correct? (i.e. that you've never hopped into vehicles or turrets on the alliance characters)

Unseen, to me you have hit the nail on the head.

I think everyone following this thread wants to know if these are Prepared's characters. I'm not trying to imply that we have a right to know.

If they are indeed his characters, then why in the world would he keep them logged in while playing WG with his 10 level 80's? How can you possibly play both Alliance and Horde characters at the same time? Even if he were not actively "cheating" as has been claimed by WoW forum posters, I would ask that as a multiboxer who has one of the highest profiles around, he ought to log off his alliance characters while in a WG battle to remove all doubt regarding the possibility of cheating.

Personally, I'm with Fur on this matter. It looks bad, very bad, and I really hope that it isn't true.