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  1. #1

    Default Setting a New Leader Upon Death

    I remember seeing Xzin discuss this somewhere but he accomplished this using a hardware trick of some sort. Being a 1 machine software MBer, this is not an option for me. I was wondering if it'd be possible to assign a new leader in one macro as opposed to using a new leader macro for each possible character.

    Since I use my focus target for my leader (I figure it'd be more flexible), this is my idea (modified to assume quinboxing):

    /tar char5 [nodead]
    /tar char4 [nodead]
    /tar char3 [nodead]
    /tar char2 [nodead]
    /tar char1 [nodead]
    /focus (or is this /setfocus, I forget)

    And my "FOLLOW" macro is set to follow my focus. This would hopefully reset in two keypresses to choose a new leader. This would ideally be an extremely quick process.

    I'd test this out but I am on the road to Houston at the moment so i am using the company laptop (no WoW installed on it, sadly).

    TLDR: Does /tar cascade upon failing a conditional?

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    This is just like the macro I use for finding the foremost living leader of the group. So yes, based on the nodead conditions it will run through each target and focus the foremost character in the group.

    I use /assist's in each spellcast though and a seperate one for setting focus for each char (so i can keep my focus feared/sheeped) It does work fairly well, but occassionally i've found it will target one of my newly dead characters and i've no idea why... anyone have any insight into this?
    Outland EU
    Pally + Shammies : Hxxc,Hxca,Hxcb,Hxcc,Hxcd

    Al'Akir EU

    Priest + Mages : Hxcx, Hxcl, Hxcr, Hxcll, Hxcrr

  3. #3

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    Why not set your leader as focus and then base every spell off of assist focus? If your leader dies, press one of 4 buttons to assign a new leader and everything resets nearly instantly and you keep right on going. You would need only work out movement (perhaps a dedicated directional keypad for each?)

    Only downside is you lose focus for other uses.

    You COULD hardwire everything in to support absolute targeting and have a mod or left and right alt/shift/control toggles to select different leaders based on various combinations of keys you held (or toggled) down.

    But using focus seems like far less work and far easier to use.

  4. #4

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    I think you could accomplish the same thing with this:
    /focus [target=char1,nodead][target=char2,nodead][target=char3,nodead][target=char4,nodead]
    where char# is the Name of the character. You may wish to change each to:
    /focus [target=char1,nodead,exists][target=char2,nodead,exists][target=char3,nodead,exists][target=char4,nodead,exists]
    /follow focus

    Now, logically, this would be ONLY ON CHAR 5.
    Char 4 would have:
    [target=char1,nodead,exists][target=char2,nodead,exists][target=char3,nodead,exists]
    Char 3
    [target=char1,nodead,exists][target=char2,nodead,exists]
    Char2
    [target=char1,nodead,exists]

    Each of those macros would be on the same button.

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    For the record, I am SW MBing.

    Normally, all my spells are set up using focus assist macros. I find it's easier to just set a focus and assist for spells than having to wait for new targets twice (once to acquire leader, once to assist leader), especially waiting on latency across four toons. I just wanted something that would target my latest living character that is the earliest in my set-up (e.g.: if I have CharA, B, C, and D, I want to find the last one standing that is the EARLIEST in the alphabet. If A is dead, I want to set focus to B.).

    Glad to see /tar cascades after failed conditionals.

    Finally, the reason I wanted to do it this way was so I could conserve macro space on every character. Instead of consuming 5 macros for a situation that ideally won't happen, I'd rather use one macro to reset leader than have to discern which character is alive that I want to use next. So, my keypress seq. goes NumPad 8 then NumPad 9 and I'm reset.

  6. #6

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    I just realized I sound kind of redundant here. My apologies on that.

    Also, Fur, I see you're on Kil'Jaeden as well, albeit Alliance. What level are you at now? I'd rather not PvP against another MBer yet since I'm still so new to it.

  7. #7

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    I've got a triple team of UD Mages in the high teens, but I am considering a quad team of 3 S Priests with a Paladin tank. My buddy is doing a Paladin ATM, but he's looking at bringing in two Mages.

    I just want to hurry up and get into SM.

    Why would they want to try so hard to conceal the fact they control multiple toons? If I was a raid leader, I'd welcome multiple DPS focus-firing a target or multiple healers focus-healing a tank. That's the ultimate in synchronicity.

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    I'm keeping my toons in a little Horde levelling Guild comprised of rerolls from Arthas. They needed people for the charter and I figured "why the hell not?"

    If you see a team of Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Delta with a suffix of some other weird phonetic (-vas for the Mages, contemplating -sim or -vel for the Pala/Priest team), that'd be me. /wave

    As far as being in a raiding Guild, having a competent player control, say, three S Priests would be like an infinite mana battery for a DPS group. Even better would be splitting the three up across the raid and providing the benefit to multiple groups. Besides, if you're using DKP, I don't see the problem: you raid on three toons, you get the DKP on three toons.

    Triple Mage would be a little weirder, I think. That would require more concentration on Polys and decursing.

    I'd just have to be careful about raids: if I knew that I was leaving that night sometime and we were short on people, I don't think I'd go. If I left the raid, that would effectively end the night for everyone.

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    My opinion of what loot-whores and drama-meisters can go do involves a 5" wide, 10' long piece of PVC pipe and bodily orifices.

    I think I'm just going to be up-front and very explicit in saying that I control all three or four characters. We'll see how that works. Xzin, you raided on Mag, right? How'd that work out for you?

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by amalgam
    So, my keypress seq. goes NumPad 8 then NumPad 9 and I'm reset.
    if you use that method of dynamically changing leader using a series of /target's you can completely cut out having to use focus (saving it for something else if you wish) make all your casting macros like this :

    /target [target=char4,nodead][target=char3,nodead][target=char2,nodead][target=char1,nodead]
    /assist
    /cast [harm] Spell

    and your follow like :

    /target [target=char4,nodead][target=char3,nodead][target=char2,nodead][target=char1,nodead]
    /follow

    that way you don't have to worry about pressing a seperate key to focus at all.

    However targeting like that is not 100% reliable, as i posted earlier on occasion (happened to be like 5 or so times in the last month) it doesn't register properly that the leader's died, I have no idea why but it usually results in a wipe
    Outland EU
    Pally + Shammies : Hxxc,Hxca,Hxcb,Hxcc,Hxcd

    Al'Akir EU

    Priest + Mages : Hxcx, Hxcl, Hxcr, Hxcll, Hxcrr

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