Pally healer not worth it in a mixed group?

[Dominian]

I wont put pve before pvp and im not changing glyphs just to do pve.. The only heroics that is left is old kingdom,HOL and last boss of the oculus, im not realy overgearing heroics either.

I never claimed it was the best rotation but i dont run oom or see my tank die with Riptide,HW,HW and keep ES up at all time. It also gives me tons of time to heal the other chars, big heals often lead to overhealing but i dont spam heal anyway.

[Khatovar]

With a holy paladin you can trow beacon of light on your tank and spam heals on your slaves without worrying about your tank. (IF your able to handle the multiutasking)

Except Beacon is expensive and does not count overhealing, nor does it pass the splashes off GoHL or JoL. Tanks have much more HP than DPS and indirect healing is a dangerous means of keeping a tank stable in healing intense fights. Beacon is better used put on yourself, direct healing to the tank keeps the healer up, Flashes to the DPS keep the healer up. HoS on the tank + Beacon on the holydin + SS was a good way to create a cushion for rough pulls. But it is a lot of multi-tasking to make good use of a paladin healer in a MB group. The attention you'd need to put into it is much better spent on making better use of your DPS and a lower-maintainence healer that doesn't need to target every single heal and heal one {2 if you blow mana on Beacon} toon at a time.

[daviddoran]

One other option s to switch the pally to ret and the priest to holy.
You keep the pally buffs. It's just whether you think handling a melee in the mix would be more trouble than it's worth.

This. Ret pallys still give replenishment buff, and priest aoe healing is the best.

[Poetry]

I never thought of putting the heals on the same button as the dps macro. I figured it would be over used and the healer would go OOM. But I'm going to try it, hows this macro for it?

/target focustarget
/cast [help] Flash of Light;[target=targettarget,help] Flash of Light;[target=focus,help] Flash of Light

This is the macro I use:
/cast [target=focustarget,help][target=focustargettarget,help][target=focus,help] Flash of Light

I think this is pretty much what you have. I typically set my focus to the tank. This type of macro means I first heal any friendly unit my tank has targeted, second it heals whoever is being attacked by the mob my tank has targeted, and finally heals my tank. I still find this macro magical at times. For the first condition there can be some assist lag so it can take a couple spams to hit the focustarget but in general this is a pretty good setup for running a single target healer and doesn't take too much management.

I wish there was a % health conditional.

Ah, as a multiboxer I miss the days of the lowest health button. That would make all of this so trivial.

That said, I agree with the previous posters who say AoE healing with a priest can be wonderfully powerful.

[KvdM]

Ah, as a multiboxer I miss the days of the lowest health button. That would make all of this so trivial.

The next best thing would be some sort of smart HUD that filters information based on relevance at that moment. So instead of looking at health bars, you'll get a message stating "Y health is low, press X".

(Like an aircraft "pull up" message that only triggers when things go wrong)

[daviddoran]

I never thought of putting the heals on the same button as the dps macro. I figured it would be over used and the healer would go OOM. But I'm going to try it, hows this macro for it?

/target focustarget
/cast [help] Flash of Light;[target=targettarget,help] Flash of Light;[target=focus,help] Flash of Light

This is the macro I use:
/cast [target=focustarget,help][target=focustargettarget,help][target=focus,help] Flash of Light

I think this is pretty much what you have. I typically set my focus to the tank. This type of macro means I first heal any friendly unit my tank has targeted, second it heals whoever is being attacked by the mob my tank has targeted, and finally heals my tank. I still find this macro magical at times. For the first condition there can be some assist lag so it can take a couple spams to hit the focustarget but in general this is a pretty good setup for running a single target healer and doesn't take too much management.

I wish there was a % health conditional.

Ah, as a multiboxer I miss the days of the lowest health button. That would make all of this so trivial.

That said, I agree with the previous posters who say AoE healing with a priest can be wonderfully powerful.

I use a very similar macro on my priest, so i first heal the tanks friendly target, then the tanks target's target, then the tank itself if i have nobody selected that meets the criteria. But having that AoE Trump card makes all the difference in the world. It seems that WotLK has a lot more "gimmickyy" boss fights where there is a lot more splash damage. It's a real shame there isn't some sort of talent that makes consecration heal whoever stands on it...

I know holy pallies usually spam Flash of Light (or at least we did in TBC), but there's a glyph that turns holy light casts into a gimped AoE heal, which may work in a pinch, trouble is overhealing, it heals based off of the amount healed, so if nobody is low enough, you can't heal everyone else. But if the tank is taking consistent damage, everyone else will benefit slightly. I could see a paladin healer with 3 ele shaman dps, chain heal negates the paladins lack of aoe.