Is my tank and team geared enough to begin heroics?

[knopstr]

Hi All,

Please read that as "Is my team geared enough to BEGIN running the "Easy" heroics? I'm a few days away from 80. I've been averaging about .5 to .6 levels per day, so I should be able to hit 80 by this weekend.

Here's my tank:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...r&n=Laydnblack

and here's 1 of my shamans (the other 3 are pretty much identically geared:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ammer&n=Imprue

My typical tank spell rotation is setup as a /castsequence macro and my shamans are on a /castrandom macro. I have the shamans healing macros set up so that the tank's dps/tank macro is bound to both so the tank is always beating away and the shamans will /stopcasting and heal as needed. Obviously following the advice from here in the forums. I'm planning on having the titansteel mace and any other crafted epics ready for the tank as well.

So, back to the original question, is my team sufficiently geared to begin trying heroics?

Thanks as usual.

[Turenn]

Your tank is seriously lacking stam, only 15,5k HP. Buy all the BoE epics you can. Tempered helm and boots will give you a great boost. I think I had 23k when I first started heroics, but that was with a warrior though. Good luck.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41387 Helm
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41392 Boots

They are cheap now

[Gomotron]

I agree with Turenn, need a little more HP to your tank.

Personally I think doing dailies for a few days to get 2K for a few epic pieces. Also, need to get the stam enchant on your bracers.

Also, there are some nice +def items in the level 80 instances which are worth farming. This will allow you to swap out your tanking ring without stam for a tanking ring with stam or a ring with stam and hit/crit rating. I think the Galdarah in Gundrak (normal) has a tank ring as a rare drop (at least he's never dropped it for me).

The shaman look pretty good imo.

[Dominian]

Like the guys said your stamina is to low!

I started heroics with 19k hp thought, 520 defence and 35% avoidance... Its managable but hard! (with a paladin)

Untill your defence capped 535 defence for heroics you will get thoose random critts were its simply impossible to survive. But if your willing to eat thoose wipes its doable without beeing critt immune! DK tanks should be higher then a paladin tank for certain but i cant set a amount tbh!

I played both paladin+4 shamans and paladin+3 ele shaman and a resto shaman.

If you think you can handle to seperate dps and healing with different keys you could respec 1 shaman to resto, its harder but it can take you futher in bad gear.

There are lots of fights that will get harder thought! Generaly straight forward tank and spank fights, but then again fights were you have to move your team alot while the tank is taking damage can be easier.

Atm i generaly block 1k damage,sacred shield eats 1k damage,riptide ticks for 500,healing stream ticks for 250 and earthshield procs for 2.5k on the avearge(critts included) That means each 5th second i negate 5-6k damage wich realy helps tanks with low healthpools. Once you get your tank gear up 1 tank + 4 shamans is way easier.

[Siaea]

Save your money from now to 80, and go buy the Tempered Titansteel Helm and Treads. Get the rest of the tempered saronite stuff (I think there's another piece or two you're missing), and run SLabs till you get the Adamantite Figurine (I think that's it) from Blackheart (at 80, I could get to him in just a couple of minutes if you're careful with where you walk) for a little more defense. That's basically what I did, and while they were a lot harder than they are now, it was doable with that as a start.

Buy the Wyrmrest tabard, and get the chest you get at revered (or Moorabi I think drops a defense chest I wore for a bit).

Your shaman look a little better than mine did when I started, so you'll probably be fine there. Just bind all 4 shaman to lesser heal the tank for when she takes spike dmg (and she will, DKs seem to be very spiky with taking damage, or at least that's what I've noticed).

Like others have said, you really need more hit points. Some of those bosses have abilities that hit tanks for 10 to 15k iirc.

EDIT: Looks like you have all the saronite pieces after looking again. Get that figurine from Blackheart the Inciter (32 defense) and probably the epic helm and boots (Tempered Titansteel stuff).

[knopstr]

Thank you kindly to all.

There was an obscure sentence in there that said I'd have some of the other BOE items made prior to beginning as well. I'm going to power-level JC'ing for the trinket as well. I used to be a titansteel factory, so I guess I'll have to fire that back up.

Keep you all posted. Itching to finish leveling.

[emesis]

I would say top of your priority list of things to do should be to visit non-heroic Halls of Lightning to get the Seal of the Pantheon from Loken. That's > 13 defense skill by itself.

Third boss is a bit tricky, will make sure you have your healing macros set up correctly for single player heals as well.

[puppychow]

you can go in with a 20k tank and wipe a lot but still clear a bunch of heroics.
you can go in with a 25-27k tank and wipe a lot, lot less. probably even 1-shot most of the heroics.

the second my DK hit 80 I had ready:

helm: tempered titansteel
neck: crafted JC neck
shoulders: some blue BOE i bought off ah for 50g, i think crusaders square?
chest: couple of quest rewards are viable here
wrists: i paid 800g and bought 60 valor badge ones (nearly best in slot)
hands and belt: forgot, crafted BS blues I believe
legs: crafted, raised argent dawn rep first and got those legs
boots: tempered titansteel
trinket1: JC trinket w/ +27 def trinket (later 41 stam once I was def capped)
trinket2: paid 6000g and bought a greatness deck, used now for DPS once I got trinket off heroic AN 2nd boss
weapon: crafted titansteel destroyer w/ rune stoneskin gargoyle
sigil: still using that crappy sigil from venture bay, helps with icy touch damage

ran naxx10/os10/voa10 first night and got a few upgrades, naxx25 next and got a few more, and after now 12 days I'm almost [Epic] in every slot and have a full set of epic dps gear too.

the sad thing is that heroics are really not that great a way to gear up anyone, its infinitely faster just to spend a ton of gold and buy stuff in trade/AH, join a good naxx10 pug and have loot rain down on you, then step up to 25 man raids and get a few more items, and bam, you are done in 1-10 days for just a few hours. Whereas you'd have to run heroics a LOT to get enough badges - all the badges I've gotten from heroic I'm using for DPS gear, ironically.

Don't forget especially to run VOA10/25, OS10/25, they each take only a few minutes and can get some great stuff.

[heyaz]

Your Shaman are good to go, but you tank isn't close. Try to get 22k on the tank before you start heroics, the more the better. I'm regularly doing the easy ones now (GD, DTK, UK, and first two of AN) with my tank at 27k and I still have to bomb heals like crazy to keep her alive on bosses.

Here is her armory fi you want to get an idea of what you can get. I have no 10 or 25 man gear, it's all crafted/quest and one piece of badge gear.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ezim&n=Mevrouw

Drop about 4k gold into your tank and you'll be good to start. This should only be 2-3 days of daily quests with your group. I think my tank had around 22.5k when I cleared my first heroic. Can probably be done with less, but it's tough.

[Coltimar]

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41357
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41357

A TON of def between these two.