Pally Macro using /click and castrandom

[Tizer]

I have moved the spells around a little with my click macros, i know consecration fires off as soon as its ready, but all i really care about is the first consecration working since its this one thats going to get the pull agro. Sometimes i just click it myself so it gets skipped in the spam.

[wowphreak]

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield, Hammer of the Righteous, Judgement of Light,Shield of Righteousness,Consecration, Hammer of the Righteous, Holy Shield,Shield of Righteousness,Judgement of Light, Hammer of the Righteous, Consecration,Shield of Righteousness

works great no need for castrandom
perfect 9696 rotation

[wolpak]

I think it will move past the current /castrandom every time it tries to cast the <blank> spell. Otherwise, it would stay stuck on the first macro even if the spell was on cooldown. It seems though that you have a 50% chance of moving past the first spell even if it hasn't cast yet?

It doesn't work like that. You mash the button once and there is a 50% chance of casting HS or moving on. But you aren't hitting the button once, you are hitting it like 10 times a second. For it to stay on the first spell for 1 second, with 5 presses would occur 3% of the time. That is fairly efficient.

The problem seems that it would skip the initial HS 50% of the time on the first press, which means that you'd have to wait for the GCD to finish before having another 50% chance of casting it again.

I wonder if for important spells you want cast, it might make sense to do

/castrandom Holy Shield, Holy Shield,

That was you have a 66% chance to cast it and you just have to mash like 13% faster to keep it clean.

[Memn]

With the macros as you have them above, you have a very low chance of actually casting anything other than Holy Shield or Hammer of the Righteous. If you look at your meters, you will probably see that you cast HotR way more than SoR and in a good rotation, they should be fairlly even. Here is what your cast chances equate to by my math:

Each click of your button results in an attempt on the below spells, with the attempt distribution percentage below.

Holy Shield 50%
Hammer of the Righteous 25%
Judgement 12.5%
Shield of Righteousness 6.25%
Consecration 3.125%
Exorcism, et al. 1.5625%

I would recommend a single cast sequence such as the one wowfreak listed (nearly identical to what I use), or break it up into two sequences on 2 buttons such as

Button 1 - The spaces allow padding to by used by button 2. Number of spaces may need to be adjusted for your spam press rate.

/castsequence reset=combat Holy Shield ,,,,,,, Judgement of Light ,,,,,,, Consecration ,,,,,,,

Button2 - Add spaces if you have buttons with actoins afterwards

/castsequence reset=combat Hammer of the Righteous, Shield of Righteousness

If what you have is working for you, then disregard what I say... but I am certain your putting out way less threat than you could otherwise.

[wolpak]

Holy Shield 50%
Hammer of the Righteous 25%
Judgement 12.5%
Shield of Righteousness 6.25%
Consecration 3.125%
Exorcism, et al. 1.5625%

This is assuming no cooldown. He will absolutely not be casting HS 50% of the time. HS has an 8 second cooldown. The GCD is 1.5 seconds which leaves 6.5 seconds of button mashing to cast other spells before HS is active again. HS then has a 50% chance of activating the next time the button is pressed and it is off of the cooldown.

What we need is someone to parse their combat logs, see how many times each spell was cast and then you can compare.

[Greythan]

What we need is someone to parse their combat logs, see how many times each spell was cast and then you can compare.

Agreed.

I am a button masher so this appeals to me, but I don't want to toss efficiency out the window either.

One thing's for sure: the macros taht require a steady tapping won't work for me now. I'd have to adjust my dps button spam and if the cast random and /click method let's me keep spamming: sign me up.

[wolpak]

Are there any takers? I would, but I am too green in the pants to have have most of those spells

[heffner]

I am a total spaz button masher. This is what I worked out [all based on the posts on this site of course] after running it on a target dummy with nonstop button smashing:

Main Macro
/startattack
/click BT4Button85
/click BT4Button87
/click BT4Button86

First Macro Button
/castsequence reset=target Avenger's Shield,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

(all the commas are due to my button smashing)

Second MACRO Button
/castsequence reset=9 Holy Shield,Shield of Righteousness,Consecration,Hammer of the Righteous,Judgement of Light,Shield of Righteousness,Holy Shield,Hammer of the Righteous,Consecration,Shield of Righteousness,Judgement of Light,Hammer of the Righteous

Third Macro Button
/castrandom Cleanse, Exorcism, Hammer of Wrath, Avenging Wrath, Hammer of Justice, Holy Wrath
/use 13
/use 14

(this used to be my Second macro but I found that it was better to have this after the 6969. Also, not sure if putting my trinkets here is optimal, but I don't think it matters)

I think I need to work on it some more though, but so far it seems to be working, as long as I get the initial aggro anyway :P Although, I really think I need to determine if this is actually working better than a simple /castrandom OR if I need to just put my 6 and 9 second spells on two separate buttons and do it manually.

[Memn]

This is assuming no cooldown. He will absolutely not be casting HS 50% of the time. HS has an 8 second cooldown. The GCD is 1.5 seconds which leaves 6.5 seconds of button mashing to cast other spells before HS is active again. HS then has a 50% chance of activating the next time the button is pressed and it is off of the cooldown.

What we need is someone to parse their combat logs, see how many times each spell was cast and then you can compare

I never said that he would cast those percentages... I said that is the percentage of cast attempts he would get per click.... 50% of all clicks attempting HS and only 3.125% attempting to cast Concecration is a problem... especially considering that a good 80% of his clicks will be blocked by a global cooldown or spell cooldown...

I don't need to see the combat log parse tell me how well this macro would perform. Wowfreak's macro from this thread is vastly superior, and is similar to what I use. Heffner's is pretty much equivalent (his button 2 is doing most of the work, and is pretty much the same as wowfreak's) from this thread (which is also very similar to heffner's last post)

[wolpak]

This is assuming no cooldown. He will absolutely not be casting HS 50% of the time. HS has an 8 second cooldown. The GCD is 1.5 seconds which leaves 6.5 seconds of button mashing to cast other spells before HS is active again. HS then has a 50% chance of activating the next time the button is pressed and it is off of the cooldown.

What we need is someone to parse their combat logs, see how many times each spell was cast and then you can compare

I never said that he would cast those percentages... I said that is the percentage of cast attempts he would get per click.... 50% of all clicks attempting HS and only 3.125% attempting to cast Concecration is a problem... especially considering that a good 80% of his clicks will be blocked by a global cooldown or spell cooldown...

I don't need to see the combat log parse tell me how well this macro would perform. Wowfreak's macro from this thread is vastly superior, and is similar to what I use. Heffner's is pretty much equivalent (his button 2 is doing most of the work, and is pretty much the same as wowfreak's) from this thread (which is also very similar to heffner's last post)

Ok, so you don't need any evidence, you jsut take it on what you assume? Ok, good to know.