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    Default Boxing with Non-Boxers

    I tried running Halls of Lightning yesterday with my Prot Warrior, Frost Mage and 3 puggers. One asked "is that a good idea?" but they were cool with it. I have run instances with my full 60 team but never with other people. Over all I think it went pretty well.

    How often to you all run like this?

    PVE and PVP teams on Lightninghoof-US (lvl 70+)

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    same

    I run our guild healers/tanks through heroics as needed.

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    I do this quite often, either dual DPS, Tank/DPS, or Tank/Tank in VoA. I often don't tell people cause I do this in PUGs where people are rarely confident of the abilities of the people they are grouping with.
    Dual-boxer on Earthen Ring (US)
    80 - Tombs (DK)/ Araze (Ret Paladin)
    65 - Meleinia (Mage)/ Celin (Spriest)

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    Everyday the trade channel will look like this
    [Trade] Zalist: LF healer for H ___, paying 100g plus any repair cost taken during run.
    [Pug1] whispers: i'll go!
    [Pug2] whispers: i'll go!
    [Pug3] whispers: i'll go!
    [Pug4] whispers: i'll go!
    [Pug5] whispers: i'll go!
    [Pug6] whispers: i'll go!

    sometimes i wish i 5 boxed
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    I 2-boxed quite a bit in BC as Feral Druid tank + Frost Mage. The best ones are when they don't even notice till near the end and ask "Why do I ask the mage a question, but you always answer?" "Because I am the mage. I'm 2-boxing" ".... wow, and you're beating me in dps? wtf?"

    I think most puggers just don't realize how boxing works, think you'd have to alt+tab, something that would make you suck. If they give you a chance, I'm sure they'll be impressed and will be more than willing to tag along again :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'kadaan',index.php?page=Thread&postID=187715#post1 87715
    I think most puggers just don't realize how boxing works, think you'd have to alt+tab, something that would make you suck. If they give you a chance, I'm sure they'll be impressed and will be more than willing to tag along again .
    Our guild just has 4 members (friends and family). Two boxers, one former boxer, and one non-boxer. Your post made me think of a conversation we were having with the non-boxer a couple weeks ago about dps, and he figured he should naturally be beating us because he was playing only one toon and we were playing multiples...alas, the damage meter tells him differently every time we run an instance lol. A lot of work and research has gone into great castsequences and optimal synergy to be very efficient. People who have never boxed can have a hard time wrapping their heads around it.

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    since i only triple box, i run with my two good guild friends, they pick up the heals and tank so i got a good deal going on. the healer seems to space out alot though lol
    Deepanalysis, Baadtouch, Captslow 3 x frost mages. trying to restore my mana and perhaps some frost faith

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    If I play, I sub someone in.
    It's really good training and the macros that I've developed as a result of it help my core team too.
    I'm a prot pally, 3 elemental shamans and 1 resto shaman. No matter what I bring in I've gotta be quick on re-writing a few macros. Something I learned was that I could keep a spare set of macros around for everyone I ever PuG with, but that takes up a hell of a lot of room. So better I just add /target whoever into the macro for my offline member.
    Yeah yeah I know, this wasn't a question about macros and stuff, but here it comes anyway. Here's my team:

    Pomme (tank)
    Sangarde (Alpha female DPS)
    Snew (DPS)
    Tweet (DPS)
    Shingo (healer)

    I don't know if your server is like mines, but even though we're not a PvP server 99% of the server is DPS specced folks. So chances are I'm ditching one of my DPS to bring someone along. That means either Snew or Tweet get replaced.
    I needed a way to not only heal the person if they're a meleer, but also if they're ranged and can't just mooch chain heals off of my tank. So it's like this:

    Sangarde has a HEAL SNEW macro:
    /target snew
    /cast [modifier:alt] chain heal; lesser healing wave

    In fact Tweet and Shingo and Snew have it too. Shingo I just add a /castrandom and riptide in because he's resto spec. If I hold down alt while I hit it, all of the shamans chain heal that target. If I don't hold down alt and hit it, all of the shamans lesser healing wave that person.
    So let's say I invite Doomchickenstein and Xkcd along because they have leet boomkin and DK DPS. I'm gonna kick Snew and Tweet. Instead of moving macros around, or making special ones, I'll just add into the old heal snew macro one more line.
    /target xkcd
    /target snew
    /cast [modifier:alt] chain heal; lesser healing wave

    Now since Snew's not online and I'm grouping with xkcd, I'm just gonna hit that macro and it'll heal xkcd. Later when he says "g2g I hear my mom coming upstairs kkbyelol" I just boot up snew and without having to swap any macros, she's back in the healing party. The computer won't target xkcd because he's now off in bed pretending to be asleep. Just like it wouldn't target snew while I booted her. So same thing for the tweet macro, I add in one line on all the shamans for Doomchickenstein which takes less than 30 seconds total.
    /target tweet
    /target doomchickenstein
    /castrandom [modifier:alt] chain heal; lesser healing wave, riptide

    okay this time I showed you the resto version in case anyone wanted to ask. If tweet's offline it'll heal whoever I put in there. If she's online (and they're not) it'll heal her and not them. Hold down alt, and it'll chain heal them (for whatever reason; usually because I like making green layzor beams)

    Back to the subject, like I said: It's great training to work with different types of people. Rogues, whirlwindy warriors, DKs who death grip stuff, druids who hurricane as soon as you pull - you can't know how to deal with everything that goes wrong until you make a few mistakes! So don't be afraid to, it's worth it. They're usually greatful to have someone to run heroics on their new alt with anyway.

    -Mooni

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    I try to avoid it, mostly because I'm not going to work up healing macros for people who shouldn't be taking damage anyway.

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    i'm running dk and 4 ele shaman. macro for allowing others in without having to change stuff around alot is party based

    shaman

    /target party2

    /cast chain heal

    etc for other shamans just change the party number. 3 chain heals go off as long as the guy is close by he gets a splash.

    Usually only allow dps or healers in so its usually not a problem as long as i tank.

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