Finally cleared H Gundrak!

[Hachoo]

I kinda disagre with the above poster, mainly because i feel this fight is about control.

Ofc burning bosses down works, and some bosses simply require it. However boss fights who has no enrage timer or stacking debuff, should be controled rather than burned since you can handle unexpected situations way better.

I assume this is in reference to my post? The whole post was dedicated to controlling the fight. No where did I say that he should focus on just DPSing him down. Closest I came to saying that was the DPS can continue as normal while Divine Protection is active, reason is because now you've just turned his high damage into something very easy to heal through. And if he makes it to a second rhino phase, he will already have blown all his best abilities and he will lose control of the fight quickly, unless he outright bubbles on the second phase. He'd have to make sure to taunt right away after a bubble though to prevent a wipe.

But you are right. This fight is all about control. That is, unless you are Hachoo and can do super insane DPS so that he doesn't even have a chance to change to rhino. But we all can't be gods.

You talk like that its impossible to survive the Rhino phase wich it aint. You cant assume that everyone have good enough gear to burn him down before the 2nd phase. I did this encounter on heroic before the major shaman changes with 1250 spelldamage and a protadin that had 22k hp. It took me 3 rhino phases but i survived completley fine by just healing in the rhino phase. Cant see how you lose control in the rhino phase???

Hachoo's shamans have 1800 spelldamage totaly unbuffed and a DK tank who has 26.5k hp, no fresh teams can show off with theese stats. 4 Shamans with a well geared tank can put out a insane amount of dps compared to a team with a dedicated healer. It wasnt always easy for him either when he had crap gear and i bet he regret abit for frapsing it now! :P

Hey to be fair my DK has 29.5k hp

But yes, when I first started doing the fight (which at the time I probably did have around 22k hp, and my shamans did have around the same amount of SP), I pretty much had to only heal during the rhino phase. Now normally I would say bubbling for -50% dmg reduction would probably work just fine, but at the time Icebound fortitude was -50% damage as well, and even popping that during the rhino phase I still had to spam heals because he still did retarded amounts of damage even with the reduction.

The whole fight is really about trying different levels of dps and healing, and then using the one that works for you. For me, at the beginning, it was about only healing during rhino phase - now I pretty much brute force damn near every Heroic boss - almost every single one can be completely owned by just DPSing so hard and fast they never get a chance to do their special moves. Of course for this to work you really have to be geared well, have a good rotation, etc. I do kind of wish I had FRAPSed my heroic runs back when i was first getting them on farm, before I had all the gear and experience I have now - it probably would have made them better "tutorial" videos. To me, some of the videos I made are less helpful just because I end up killing the boss before it uses half of the moves you have to learn how to dodge/avoid/get around/etc.

Hopefully some other people will pioneer some video making for WotLK and get a bunch of "starter" tutorials up