Tag Boosting

[Sam DeathWalker]

Although you are all correct about getting banned jumping in and out of groups in instances, thats not what the link I gave is talking about. He mentions nothing about instances.

what you are doing is killing it yourself, there is nothing even remotely slick about using 26 characters to kill a mob

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I do exactly what he is talking about. Guys are similar level so the mobs are not grey to anyone. One character tags (in my case one group tags), and other characters help kill the mob (in my case other groups help kill the mobs). Its exactly what he is talking about.

Youre way you will only get a % of the xp becuse you dident do all the dmg, so rly its faster just by doing it in groups.

Thats not correct at all. If the mob is not grey to you or your helpers the tagger gets 100percent of the exp.

[X-Ifist]

still doing it in 5man group you get group xp+raf

[Sam DeathWalker]

Yes and if you have 4 other groups to help you kill aoe style thats even better.

Glo, I didnt write that artical/blog. He backs his statements up with solid math, do you find anything wrong with his reasoning except that its not consistent with yur opinion?

You saw the screenshot where I was making 60K plus per hour at level 44ish.

The fact that I spend over 1/2 my time on TS and AH, and that the first RAF was wasted on computers and macros and addons dosnt make HIS math incorrect.

[glo]

Yes and if you have 4 other groups to help you kill aoe style thats even better.

Glo, I didnt write that artical/blog. He backs his statements up with solid math, do you find anything wrong with his reasoning except that its not consistent with yur opinion?

You saw the screenshot where I was making 60K plus per hour at level 44ish.

The fact that I spend over 1/2 my time on TS and AH, and that the first RAF was wasted on computers and macros and addons dosnt make HIS math incorrect.

I am not saying anything about the article you linked. What I am saying is you are walking up to a mob and killing it, there is nothing special about what you are doing in the least. It is not a super secret leveling strategy, a solo player using raf can easily get 60k an hour just walking up to mobs and killing them just like you are.

Can you not just play the game and learn what is going on before posting?

[Knytestorme]

Well it appears there is a name for what I am and have been doing, and what I claim is, at least for a 26 (now 30) boxer, the fastest way to level.

Well I believe Prepared had more than 30 characters, didn't level your way and was faster to level than you so it seems, like most of your posts here so far, you're wrong about yet another thing in WoW

[Sam DeathWalker]

I DID NOT WRITE the artical I linked. Is HE right, or is HE wrong, and if he is wrong, what is wrong about his math.

To give an example: At level 60 in terokkar forest the above mob-tagging tactic gives you approximately 1200xp per kill and your killing speed is that of a level 70 tearing through low level mobs. This translates to about a level per hour but scales quite well if you can get more buddies or buddies that can aoe kill mobs by the truckload (or introduce rested xp etc.).

To summarize:

1. Get a friend or multiple friends that are no more than 10 levels above you.
2. Find an area where the mobs con green to your higher level buddy(s) and orange / reddish to you (mobs must NOT con gray to your higher level friend(s)).
3. Do not group (do not stay in the same party)
4. Attack a mob once (1 shot is enough to tag it)
5. Let your higher level buddy(s) kill off the mob
6. Loot
7. Rinse and repeat steps 4 - 6

how the hell do I get to 70 faster?

Opinions may vary on this one. Some say get people to boost you in instances. Others say go quest alone, a few AoE specialists swear by grinding certain groups of mobs in certain locations and other still say you should group up and have the high level character carve you a path through your quest mobs.

I say regardless of what people say take a step back and look at the mechanic of XP gain:

1. Questing/grinding ungrouped gives the most xp per kill
2. When you group you split the xp over the amount of group members that are present (the split is more even when you are all of about the same level)
3. If you group with a high level character xp suffers from diminishing returns meaning that you get far less xp
4. If someone outside your group helps kill your mobs xp also suffers from diminishing returns if the other player is of significantly higher level than the mobs you're killing (5+)

Just looking at these facts we can draw the following 2 conclusions:
1. Not grouping is better than grouping
2. Partnering up with someone in your level range (+10 levels max) yields more xp than someone whose significantly higher than you.

Is HE right or is HE wrong, and why?


Man one thing that I am sure we all can agree on is that I am hella good looking. Wonder if I should go for the GQ cover or Playgirl centerfold contract this month?

[Sam DeathWalker]

Well I believe Prepared had more than 30 characters, didn't level your way and was faster to level than you so it seems, like most of your posts here so far, you're wrong about yet another thing in WoW

Prepared didnt spend one month improving his computers, he dosnt use more then 2-3 simple addons, he dosnt spend 1/2 his time in the AH and on TS and another 1/6th of his time posting on forums. Saying that questing is superior to tag boosting based on comparing him to me just has no basis at all as you can always find examples of one spicific person who beat another using a spicific method.

Lets look at the last month. I gained 10 x 26 levels on my guys and he gained what 10 X 5 levels on his 80's and zero on his 70's. Should I conclude from that that whatever I did the last month is better then whatever Prepared did the last month? He hasnt done a thing at all on all except 10 of his guys in the last what 3 months? Of that does make sense, he is getting rested exp and waiting for 3.1 improvments, both smart moves.

I think that Math is your friend and figuring how to level faster requires looking at how exp is generated and optimizing your stratagy accordingly, as "Captain the First" who wrote the blog I linked did. And so far the ususal forum trolls don't seem to have any actual math to back up their conclusory allegations.

[Starbuck_Jones]

His math works if your boosting one toon. Seeing how your doing this with a group of 5, the xp is not going to be all that great or fast, You have more than enough AOE to just kill big groups of mobs with 5 shaman 26 more are not going to speed things up (just look cool). also your going to have to rotate groups to keep them all the same level.

Your fastest way to level is going to be prolly get your paladin up to 70+ then RAF groups of 4 shaman to 60 and then level grant 2 more to 60. Rinse and repeat 3-4 more times till you have all the 60's you want. You can boost them to 60 in a days played time. After that, rotate groups and instance grind to 80. Play one group while the others are getting rested.

The game just doesnt allow for efficiant leveling past a single group.

[glo]

His information is fairly accurate.

This is not what you are doing though. You are grouped and killing the mobs yourself. It doesn't matter anyway as leveling to 45 in half a year with RAF does not take a secret method. I could place a keyboard on the ground and mindlessly stomp on it and get a similar leveling rate. With this keyboard I could probably get double your xp rate ;) Old Keyboard == New Footboard

While this game is not too complicated for my 9 year old daughter or 70 year old grandmother it seems to give you much trouble grasping the basics. When are you moving to that other game you were so gung-ho about?

[mikekim]

Lets look at the last month. I gained 10 x 26 levels on my guys and he gained what 10 X 5 levels on his 80's and zero on his 70's. Should I conclude from that that whatever I did the last month is better then whatever Prepared did the last month? He hasnt done a thing at all on all except 10 of his guys in the last what 3 months? Of that does make sense, he is getting rested exp and waiting for 3.1 improvments, both smart moves.

now you reckon that your 10 levels at 40 whatever even compare to the required XP to go from 75 to 80 - FFS wake up and smell the crap you are shoveling (as all 10 of your levels are about the same amount of XP required to level one of those needed at high 70's).