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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Ellay',index.php?page=Thread&postID=185957#post18 5957
    It's because multiboxing and botting are so closely tied together we try to keep any association as distant as possible. I don't want to be able to google said botting program and see my site pop up
    <said botting program> is quite alot of places on this site already.

    Do a search "<said botting program>", and you'll find alot of threads! Maybe you should consider to edit those threads (can you add a filter?)?

  2. #32

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    Last year when there was a banwave of people using <said botting program> my server (Scarshield Legion EU) went from medium pop to 'recommended'...

    There are a ton of botters out there.

  3. #33

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    I am a paid user of wowecon, and it's pretty nice to have. For the price they charge ($3.33 per month or something?), it's worth it!

    I get e-mails when certain items are listed for buyout below a set price, and the e-mails are within maybe 10 minutes of the listing -- sometimes less.

    I would recommend it.
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  4. #34

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    You don't have to pay to get up to date info (at least not when I was using it in BC) but it's like wowcensus, and only gets its data from users of their mod uploading data. Unlike auctioneer, wowecon only saves data when an item SELLS and not just what it's listed at. This means that some joker listing 100 stacks of X for 100x the current price won't mess up the data at all (unless someone buys it). The downside is that it only records data if the buyer or selling is running the mod, not any random person scanning the AH.

  5. #35

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    What get's me about all of this is:

    Blizzard has 1... yes, 1 employee that basically runs Warden. ( the program designed to catch botters,hackers,etc )

    Yet, for this "said program" they hire a fleet of lawyers and spend tons of money to take the program down.



    I honestly think it's going to be a huge wake up call to a lot of people.

    I used to be involved in the botting world, and in the past months/years it's seriously gotten LARGE. Especially this said program.

    People are going to be very surprised at the prices.... heck, even prices skyrocketed for several days when a large banwave swept through "said program" .

  6. #36

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    You know the saying, "When there is a will, there is a way". Stopping one botting program won't do anything, IMO. Another one will appear. When there is real $ to be made, someone will figure it out. Maybe the strategy they use will change or the items they sell, but they will adapt.

    Perhaps they will just farm the AH. This would drive prices up. If you can corner the market you can dictate the price. I wonder what would happen if you bought every auction for a demanded item for two weeks non-stop and relisted it at 50% higher every time. Farmers run 24/7 so it's feasible. Now, would this result in a ban before you actually made any money?? Maybe.

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'sqeaky4100',index.php?page=Thread&postID=186124#p ost186124
    What get's me about all of this is:

    Blizzard has 1... yes, 1 employee that basically runs Warden. ( the program designed to catch botters,hackers,etc )

    Yet, for this "said program" they hire a fleet of lawyers and spend tons of money to take the program down.



    I honestly think it's going to be a huge wake up call to a lot of people.

    I used to be involved in the botting world, and in the past months/years it's seriously gotten LARGE. Especially this said program.

    People are going to be very surprised at the prices.... heck, even prices skyrocketed for several days when a large banwave swept through "said program" .
    You can expect your prices on leather, primals eternals, cloth to go up along with enchanting mats. Thats pretty much about it, any super rare farmable pets.. dont expect to see them on the auction house to often. Evern seen 2 or more captured fireflys on your servers auction house in burning crusade.. yep that was probably a botter.

    Prices did sky rocket last May, but hey stuff happens right. It won't be long till other companies create or redesign illegal software, just like napster and other peer 2 peer sites the can of worms has just been opened in my opinion.
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  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Iceorbz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=186159#post 186159
    Quote Originally Posted by 'sqeaky4100',index.php?page=Thread&postID=186124#p ost186124
    What get's me about all of this is:

    Blizzard has 1... yes, 1 employee that basically runs Warden. ( the program designed to catch botters,hackers,etc )

    Yet, for this "said program" they hire a fleet of lawyers and spend tons of money to take the program down.



    I honestly think it's going to be a huge wake up call to a lot of people.

    I used to be involved in the botting world, and in the past months/years it's seriously gotten LARGE. Especially this said program.

    People are going to be very surprised at the prices.... heck, even prices skyrocketed for several days when a large banwave swept through "said program" .
    You can expect your prices on leather, primals eternals, cloth to go up along with enchanting mats. Thats pretty much about it, any super rare farmable pets.. dont expect to see them on the auction house to often. Evern seen 2 or more captured fireflys on your servers auction house in burning crusade.. yep that was probably a botter.

    Prices did sky rocket last May, but hey stuff happens right. It won't be long till other companies create or redesign illegal software, just like napster and other peer 2 peer sites the can of worms has just been opened in my opinion.
    i dunno, blizzard have proved they have the money and the power to charge and fine these people
    if anyone does make a new one it will be soo far underground not many will have access
    or only keen programmers will make them for their own personal use
    imo 8|
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  9. #39

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    I recently reported an obvious robot (some hunter killing yetis and skinning them - they still exist) and the GM said live he'll personally look into it - 3 days later the robot is still online botting... so...
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  10. #40

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    Yeah they unfortunately use the same e-mail template (and/or in-game mails) to respond to lots of situations.

    I wish you really knew the result when you report someone. Of course, privacy is an issue I guess.

    I always laugh at all the [2. Trade] chat where people say "don't do <action> or you'll be banned" when no one ever knows the outcome of reporting another player.

    While I realize GM's have to keep a low profile amongst players, I'm very shocked that they keep everything as low-key as they do. I can't say I've ever heard someone say "my friend is a Blizzard GM".
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