EVE Online mission multiboxing ships ?

[Redbeard]

Training times arent any lower. Youll still be waiting weeks. I am ambivalent against wow, intellectually im interested in getting my 5 man to 80 but im depressed about what happens when i get there. Anyways, considering picking this back up.

The longer training times are offset by the fact that its real time, in my opinion. This only really penalizes people who like binge / powerlevel really fast.

Basic systems, mining, ratting, etc are still the same. They JUST put out a new expansion which has some new wormhole type things, ill let you check it out if youd like.

[hardcoded]

Am I better off starting from scratch, or using my original character?

- Souca -

Generally speaking, roll a caldari achura monk. Their starting stats are crazy, and you get 1M skillpoints to start (was: 100k for others) After a year and a half, my achura alt caught up with my other combat alt which was signifigantly older, and continued to train faster.

When they came out thekiller8 asserted that they had the "sexy" skill:
http://www.student.ru.nl/martindevillers/rmrnstuff.html

Good memories. Popping the author of that video's carrier was awesome That'll learn them Europeans to lay claim to (largely) American territory.

[Redbeard]

Hardcoded, they just changed the new player experience with the expansion in march.

Players now start with very limited skills and then they train twice as fast.

Theyve also introduced stat rerolling.

[hardcoded]

o.0

[Souca]

Hmm, maybe I'll download the trial and seem how much things have changed.

- Souca -

[Thulos]

As for skills, have they restructured it much? Last time I activated my account I was looking at 7 or 14 days for anything interesting. I know they added queueing, but if it still takes weeks of real time to get a skill from 4 -> 5 then I wonder how much it really helps.

The way skills work has not changed. With learning skills you can greatly reduce skill training time. Beyond that it's just part of the large curve getting into the game. Fortunately you get to train without actually playing. It's a tradeoff but one that is worth it. If you think about it from another angle you can train skills in the game without playing for years on end, as long as you are willing to pay for subscription costs. Once you reach a point like me and you can pay for multiple accounts with in game currency and minimal effort the system becomes great. For the past year I've been paying for 4 accounts with in game currency.

For those of you playing, do you play regularly, or is it more of one a week sort of a playstyle? Am I better off starting from scratch, or using my original character?

For the past 4 months I've been playing pretty hardcore. On the other side I've setup passive income where I can go long stretches without playing. As far as starting from scratch it depends completely on how many skills you have with your character, with once a year stat respecs the main factor is whether you have a core build thats worth building upon. The most important thing to building a new character is learning skills. If you have more than 2 to 3 million sp with most of them in learning skills then you are better off using your existing character, otherwise you are probably better off starting from scratch. The new system starts you with very minimal skills but gives you double training speeds up to 1.5 million sp.

[Souca]

Well, I've reactivated my original account. Figure I'll play it a bit and decide if I want to get back in. I'd also use it for the buddy referal. Once the patch downloads I'll have a better idea where I am in terms of skill points and ISK.

I like the idea of passive income that pays for your subscription to keep your training going. It's the one thing that always bugged me, I could have had years of training if I'd been willing to keep paying the subscription. I started playing within a month of launch or so.

- Souca -

[Redbeard]

Thulos, what are you doing in game thats generating passive income? Did you invest? Research agents?

Hmm.

[Souca]

Okay. I jumped back in.

I reactivated my main account and referred three buddy accounts. Made two Caldari Achura Monks, not sure if that's meaningful anymore since the whole creation is kinda simple now and have them training learning. Created a Gallente Jin-Wo(sp?) something and have her training mining, still need to get her the learning skill. My original character is Gallente Miner and has over 3 mill SP total, but only 280k in the Learning tree, but he does have learning rank 5. I think I have him working on some ship skills for now.

I'm guessing that my referer accounts are going to have to sit in station for a while soaking up knowledge. I looked at boosters and implants, but there doesn't seem to be anything I can really afford or could use right now. I have around 750k ISK, yes its pathetic I know. Can anyone reccomend a good place to start looking at for skills I should be training, ships I should be after? I'm guessing Raven on the two Caldari, and maybe a third Caldari to run logistics. The Gallente are goign to be transport and mining with drones.

This game is just so aliento me now that I feel sorta lost in how to even start. I do have a company thats over 5 years old though

Characters are James DiGriz, Souca, Kiellie and Kaetryna. Feel free to poke me ingame.

Oh, and unless I'm doing something wrong, it won't let me play my pay account and my trial the same time on the same machine. Can I play multiple pay accounts at the same time, or did that change with the latest expansion?

- Souca -

[Redbeard]

Learners are important but I would suggest doing the following. Take the basic learners up to level 3 or so, that will be quick. Then figure out, basically, what you want the character to do. If you want to mine, get some mining skills out of the way (maybe up to a retriever depending on how long you want to wait) and then when you get to the point where you can PLAY the game then go back and finish learners.

There are a lot of various opinions about whether to train them, not to train them, etc. I fived them on my guy but i just liked having them done. Supposedly id have to play for many years in order to benefit from getting all the learners to 5, but im not some power gamer who thinks about things in those terms.

Anyways.