Experiences with my new mixed team

[Ken]

I have a group a lot alike like yours, just my priest is disc specced and not holy :)

You ever tried disc priest? Shield + Penance is a great combo. Basically Penance is instant healing (no cast time) but with 3 pulses. Great for tank healing and emergency mouse over, and disc will get a serious buff on top of that with 3.1 (faster Shield, impr Flash Heal, and lots of spell haste) and disc is a much much more mana efficient healing spec compared to holy :)

I so agree. I had a holy priest too at level 80 for a few months and then respecced to discipline. I'll never switch back to holy. Holy is based on overhealing and has strong group healing.
When using holy in a group, you usually don't need many kinds of group healing, discipline suffices with its 2 group heal skills and Prayer of Mending. When using holy in a raid, it can be VERY effective for group healing, but only if the other healer(s) are doing their job well. From the moment that other healers are slacking a bit or when they are undergeared, the holy priest's mana gets drained very quickly.

For me, a discipline priest has sufficient multi-target healing skills, but Penance is just the best thing ever: it almost doesn't cost any mana and it does about as much healing as a greater heal and it starts healing from the moment you cast it. I usually just throw my HoT and Prayer of Mending on the tanks in a raid and another discipline priest does the same. When you do that, the tanks almost don't require any extra healing.

When there are 3 healers in a group, I often stay at 80% mana or higher during a boss fight with discipline spec. The endboss encounter in Naxx also becomes really easy with Penance.

This is my build(51/20/0), it's based on Kvdm's build:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-ta...+Blade&n=Senua

[puppychow]

damn all this really wants me to level my 61 priest, I hear priests are also getting some decent love in 3.1? The raz fight in Naxx is funny as heck, I see pugs every day "lf1m naxx25 priest any spec/gear!!" and so want to take my priest and rain epics down on her

Also have any of you ever tried gearing for extremely high spirit and just spamming holy nova? threat free aoe heals, and if your spirit is high enough I'd imagine you could spam it non stop during most fights.

[CommanderChaos]

damn all this really wants me to level my 61 priest, I hear priests are also getting some decent love in 3.1? The raz fight in Naxx is funny as heck, I see pugs every day "lf1m naxx25 priest any spec/gear!!" and so want to take my priest and rain epics down on her

Also have any of you ever tried gearing for extremely high spirit and just spamming holy nova? threat free aoe heals, and if your spirit is high enough I'd imagine you could spam it non stop during most fights.

Holy Nova is really just an "oh crap" button. It uses double the mana and does maybe half the damage of a pally consecrate. It can sometimes buy you time to get off some real heals, but it uses too much mana to be spammable. When I started my 5x priest group (have some RAF time left) I was intrigued with the aoe possibilities as well, but it takes about half of my mana to burn down regular mobs my level with it (and that's x5). On the other hand, a single one (x5) is enough to bring everyone from half to full health. I've soloed a priest to 71, mostly disc, and it just hurts too much to use Holy Nova anything but rarely.

[Redbeard]

Wanted to comment about watching procs since I didnt see anybody else mention it. For some classes youre giving up quite a bit of power and/or wasting talent points if you ignore procs.

Personally I use Mik's combat scrolling text add on. You can tell it to show you procs from your party (and you can ignore the ones you dont want so youre not inundanted with stuff you dont care about). So for example it shows when my enhancement shaman has a 5 stack of maelstrom weapon. It shows when my fury warrior gets a free slam prom, etc etc.

Just throwing it out ther.

[KvdM]

Holy Nova is really just an "oh crap" button. It uses double the mana and does maybe half the damage of a pally consecrate. It can sometimes buy you time to get off some real heals, but it uses too much mana to be spammable. When I started my 5x priest group (have some RAF time left) I was intrigued with the aoe possibilities as well, but it takes about half of my mana to burn down regular mobs my level with it (and that's x5). On the other hand, a single one (x5) is enough to bring everyone from half to full health. I've soloed a priest to 71, mostly disc, and it just hurts too much to use Holy Nova anything but rarely.

I actually used it quite a lot when I soloed my priest from 70 to 80. Disciplin extra strong + reflective shields in combination with power infusion + holy nova (and eventually mind sear) works quite well for aoe'ing groups of quest mobs.

@rebeard
Did you setup any extra keys to make use of these procs?

[maxel]

Would it be possible for you to update your layout thread and add some screenshots of your priest / mage setup? I have the capability of running exactly the same layout but was wondering, since you're having so much success, how you're grouping some of the spells together. I would kill to see a copy of the macros exported for each class. Thanks in advance!

Max

[torytrae]

Wanted to comment about watching procs since I didnt see anybody else mention it. For some classes youre giving up quite a bit of power and/or wasting talent points if you ignore procs.

Personally I use Mik's combat scrolling text add on. You can tell it to show you procs from your party (and you can ignore the ones you dont want so youre not inundanted with stuff you dont care about). So for example it shows when my enhancement shaman has a 5 stack of maelstrom weapon. It shows when my fury warrior gets a free slam prom, etc etc.

Just throwing it out ther.

Interessting, nice idea. How do you handle this macro-like? It should be hell to assign a specific key somehow to trigger each proc of your toons? How did you setup this proc-stuff? Was always wondering

[Feider]

Zitat von »Redbeard«
Wanted to comment about watching procs since I didnt see anybody else mention it. For some classes youre giving up quite a bit of power and/or wasting talent points if you ignore procs.

Personally I use Mik's combat scrolling text add on. You can tell it to show you procs from your party (and you can ignore the ones you dont want so youre not inundanted with stuff you dont care about). So for example it shows when my enhancement shaman has a 5 stack of maelstrom weapon. It shows when my fury warrior gets a free slam prom, etc etc.

Just throwing it out ther.


Interessting, nice idea. How do you handle this macro-like? It should be hell to assign a specific key somehow to trigger each proc of your toons? How did you setup this proc-stuff? Was always wondering

I use MSCT also to announce party procs. I have it only announce Brain Freeze and Eclipse though. With a mixed group random auras are procing all over the place.
I don't have my macros in front of me but basically on the main dps key I have something like this:

MAGE
/cast [nomodifier] frostbolt; [modifier:shift] fireball

DRUID
/cast [nomodifier] wrath; [modifier:ctrl] starfire (for trash)
/cast [nomodifier] starfire; [modifier:ctrl] wrath (for bosses)

When an ability procs I (hopefully) hit the right modifier.

[shaeman]

I'll have to grab that mod - it sounds exactly what I need.

[Havelcek]

Fuzzyboy, can you update your blog or post with your current character names? I'd like to check out your talents.

Thanks!